HomeMy WebLinkAbout1980 Parking Place MinutesTIME:
PLACE:
CALL TO ORDER:
MINUTES:
OLD BUSINESS
Walnut Avenue
REGULAR MEETING
PARKING PLACE COMMISSION
CITY OF SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 14, 1980
RECEIVED
3:10 P.M.
Large Conference Room, City Hall
OFFICE OF
CITY CLERK
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The meeting was called to order at 3:10 P.M.
by Chairman Penna.
Present:
Chairman John Penna
Commissioner Dennis Rosaia
Commissioner Peter Ruggeri
Engineer Terry Leong
Finance Director William R. Anderson
The minutes of the September 9, 1980, regular
meeting was approved.
Mr. Anderson stated that the Walnut Avenue Parking
Improvement plans were sent to Community Development,
Fire and the Police Department. Community Development
responded with some notes on the plan; Police Department
sent a memo indicating they were satisfied with the plan;
Fire Department had not as yet responded but Mr. Anderson
was sure that the plan would be accepted.:'
The Commission was very pleased that an additional handi-
capped parking space was acquired and that the big trees
would be saved. The overall plan itself was very well
received by all.
Chairman Penna questioned if the Masonic Temple had con-
tacted anyone. Mr. Anderson replied that he has had no
response, however, it was his understanding that if they
wanted anything over and beyond the necessary, it would
be funded by them. The loading and unloading zone was
questioned by Chairman Penna, if a parking meter with
a sign was to be utilized. Commissioner Rosai said that
the alley way would be used and if necessary a sign would
be posted on a meter for loading and unloading. Engineer
Leong reminded the Commission that the meters would all
be double headed.
Commissioner Rosaia entered a motion that the Walnut
Avenue Parking Improvement plan, as submitted by the
Engineering Department, be approved. Commissioner
Ruggeri seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously
passed.
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New Lot on Miller Avenue
Cypress/Miller Lot
Mr. Anderson reported that the lot is in operation with
a total of 20 parking spaces. "Compact Parking Only"
signs, when completed, will be installed on the easterly
side.
Commissioner Rosaia wished to commend the City on the
landscaping. The consensus was that a lot of shrubbery
was planted and when appropriate the excess could be
removed and utilized elsewhere as needed. Chairman
Penna suggested that perhaps at the next meeting, to
propose the other lots be improved in a similar manner.
Commissioner Rosaia suggested that this matter be tabled
due to the cost factor. Engineer Leong stated that
$7,000 to $8,000 was needed to install the electric
controller and the water system. Total cost of the lot
was $34,345, the additional cost factor, the top soil had
to be removed to have a solid base for the retaining
wall.
Mr. Anderson stated that one of the questions associated
with the lot was the signs. At the Council study session,
a question was raised as to whether we need to post and
identify each sign and on the tickets limiting our li-
ability. Upon conferring with the Assistant City Attorney,
he was of the opinion that we are not required to post
any limiting liability in that the City of South San
Francisco is not a bailee. A bailee willy'take your car
keys and control your car, as in many of the private lots.
Mr. Anderson suggested that in conjunction with the
'City Engineer's signing program for the streets directing
parking, that a smaller sign be designed for the entrance
to each of our lots rather than the monstrous signs that
are now posted. The signs will give the time limits~-andl.~
and identify it as a City parking lot. A discussion'~-~
followed suggesting that the sign be painted on the drive-
way, the poles of the meter, or on the ticket box. It
was agreed that Mr. Anderson will check with Engineering
whether a standard size sign of 4 x 3 should be made or
investigate the other possibilities.
Mr. Anderso]~eived a phone call from Mr, Flanders
andwasq~omredithat the project is put on hold for now,
but they a~"~tTll interested. Mr. Flanders will contact
Planning when he is ready.
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ommission
Blue Sky Session
NEW BUSINESS
Master Parking Plan
Parking Place Commission
Meeting November 11,1980
Ho 1 i day
Christmas Free Parking
Grand Avenue Celebration
Thus far we have been unable to plan the Blue Sky
Session since Community Development is presently
facing a personnel shortage. Mr. Anderson suggested
that the session be held at the Staff level with the
City Manager to look into the various alternatives°
A Blue Sky Session with the Planning Commission and the
Parking Place Commission will be a public meeting and
this may inhibit people. It was agreed that the Blue
Sky Session at the staff level be scheduled as soon
as possible.
The Master Parking Plan is now being assembled by the
City Manager and Staff. The City Manager is using some
of D'Amico's. plan and putting together a plan that will
have the consensus of the Staff and will be submitted
to the commissions for their approval and eventually
to the Council. Chairman Penna suggested that since
this plan is being formulated, whether it could be
incorporated with the Blue Sky Session to get the
Parking District's input into the plan and also to find
out what is developing.
Chairman Penna questioned if D'Amico's plan was useful
and the fee of $5,000 paid was in line. Mr. Anderson
was of the opinion for the4~al~_~Ur~ and the maps
plotted that it was not out of line.
It was agreed that the November ll, 1980, Veteran's Day
holiday, the meeting will be cancelled and the normal
cancel~/ation notices will be sent out. Mr. Anderson
will check with the City Manager and a special meeting
may be called when the Master Parking Plan is completed.
Christmas free parking will be effective December llth
through December 29th. Mr. Anderson commented that it
will take Mr. John Previti two days for installation and
two days for removal.
Chairman Rosaia announced that the Grand Avenue Celebration
will take place on November 22 and 23, 1980. It was
agreed by the Commission that free parking on all meters
and parking lots will be available on November 22, 1980.
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Grand Avenue Celebration
(continued)
Free Parking
Signs
The method of advertising and cost factor was discussed.
Commissioner Rosaia stated that 1/4 page ad on the
special inserts will cost $117.00. Mr. Anderson sug-
9ested that if the City could develop a map indicatin9
all the lots that this map could be inserted in the
newspaper at a lower cost than the 1/4 page ad. It
was also suggested that since the Parking Place Com-
mission is offering free parking, the merchants could
cooperate and contribute toward the cost of advertising.
Since Commissioner Rosaia is coordinating the advertising
for the celebration, he will keep the Commission apprised
as to the advertising procedure to follow.
Commissioner Ruggeri stated that he was requested by an
individual to approa~h the Parkingq)~tric-~t~Commission
if free parking~=~~ made available dLiri~the week for
two to three hours. Chairman Penna commented that it is
a good idea, however, unless the merchants promote and
offer some good values it will not draw the people to
the downtown area. The Commission is interested~pro-
viding the promotional work is done by the merchants.
Commissioner Rosaia commented on the new two hour~
parking limit signs now posted on the meter posts. Mr.
Anderson explained that before the revi.ta]ization, the
signs were posted on the street lights, but since the
curb is now behind the street lights the new signs were
posted.
The meeting was adjourned at 4:12 p.m.
APPROVED:
~o~h'tghairman
Respectful ly submitted,
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REGULAR MEETING
PARKING PLACE COMMISSION
CITY OF SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 9, 1980
TIME:
PLACE:
CALL TO ORDER:
MINUTES:
OLD BUSINESS
WALNUT AVENUE
NEW LOT ON MILLER AVENUE
3:10 P.M.
City Manager's Office'
The meeting was calle~ to order at 3:10 P.M. by
Chairman Penna '
Present:
Chairman John Penna
Commissioner Dennis Rosaia
Commissioner Peter Ruggeri
Vice-Mayor Gus Nicolopulos
Officer Michael Dickson
Louise Coleman, Acting Finance Director
The minutes of the August 12, 1980, regular meeting
were approved.
Mrs. Coleman stated that Council authorized Staff to
proceed with the project design for the Walnut Avenue
configuration. At the joint meeting on August 13 with
Council and Parking Place Commission, Staff was requested
to:
A. Prepare a Master Parking Plan, within 90 days, for
review and adoption.
To produce further design to address concerns of
Planning Commission, Masonic Temple, All Souls
Church, City Departments and others,
Vice-Mayor Nicolopulos commented that the original motion
was to uphold the Planning Commission but it was reversed
and are to proceed with the Walnut Avenue Project to tie
in with the Downtown Revitalization Project.
Commissioner Rosaia stated that another $3,000 was
appropriated for a retaining wall. Vice-Mayor Nicolopulos
explained they discovered top soil instead of the hard
soil and this created a need for the retaining wall to be
built.
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BLUE SKY SESSION
NEW BUSINESS
BONDS
MASTER PARKING PLAN
CHRISTMAS FREE PARKING
Commissioner Rosaia commented that the Planning Commission
was interested in holding a blue sky session with the
Parking Place Commission. It was agreed that occasional
sessions would enable both commissions to be aware of what
is transpiring. Chai'rman Penna reiterated that Planning
Commission has no concept of what the Parking District is
all about. For instance, anyone applying for a building
permit within the District can build without providing
parking space. Officer Dickson stated that anyone building
a condo was required to have 1-1/2 parking space.
Commissioner Rosaia explained that within the Parking
District, parking space is not required. Chairman Penna
further explained that it is a municipal district, bonded
With a commission staff to insure the bonds are solvent.
Commissioner Ruggeri brought up for discussion the pos-
sibility of paying off the bond, making another district,
and start buying older homes instead of putting money on
the street for parking. Chairman Penna stated that the
bond will mature in 1984 and it was suggested by Mr.
Anderson to hold the.bond until maturity, and then dis.-
solve the'district and/or reform, or expand the district
by making a second district that supercedes the first
district.
Commissioner Rosaia explained that the district boundary
line can be changed but monies cannot be borrowed until
the bond is paid off, Chairman Penna stated that accord-
ing to the City Attorney, a new district can be recreated
with a new boundary line so that your new district is
also your old district. When the old district is ready to
pay off the bond, it dies a natural death ending up with
a bigger district.
Chairman Penna suggested that with the Master Parking Plan,
which is due in 90 days, the possibility of incorporating
the expanding of the Parking District to be included.
The perimeter could be between Spurce Avenue and Airport
Boulevard, 2nd Lane to 6th Lane and then along Linden
Avenue (both sides) to Aspen Avenue and to Airport Bou-
levard. This would offer an opportunity for old properties
to be purchased and it can easily tie in with the Bethelehem
Development.
Mrs. Coleman was requested by Mr. Anderson for the
Commission to consider the Christmas Free Parking for the
the next meeting.
Motion was unanimously passed that Free Parking be
available two weeks before Christmas~ENTRAk R£CO~DS
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CELEBRATION - COMMEMORATE
COMPLETION OF DOWNTOWN
REVITALIZATION PROJECT
Commissioner Rosaia indicated the merchants are
planning some sort of celebration upon completion of
Grand Avenue. The target date is set for November 20th
weekend. Commissioner Rosaia will keep the Commission
informed on the plans.
The meeting was adjourned at 4:00 p.m..
Respectfully submitted,
APPROVED:
TIME:
PLACE:
CALL TO ORDER:
MINUTES:
OLD BUSINESS:
Walnut Avenue
REGULARMEETING
PARKING PLACE COMMISSION
CITY OF SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO
TUESDAY, AUGUST 12, 1980
RECEIVED
3:00 p.m.
Large Conference Room, City Hall
The meeting was called tO order by 3:12 p.m., by
Chairman Penna.
Present:
Chairman John Penna
Commissioner Dennis Rosaia
Mr. Floyd Sparks
Mr. Allen Weinstein
Mr. Robert Sans
Director of Public Services Robert Yee
Engineer Terry Leong
Director of Finance William R. Anderson
Absent: Commissioner Peter Ruggeri - Vacation
The Minutes of the July 8, 1980, regular meeting were
approved.
Mr. Anderson apprised the Commission that a letter dated
August 4, 1980, was received the the Francis Drake Lodge
No. 376 (Masonic Temple). A reply was sent on August 8,
1980, informing them that a Staff Technical Committee had
been assembled to review the project for engineering
feasibility and environmental impact.
The Commission discussed at length:
1. Whether the newly installed controller will be affected.
2. Whether the older trees can be saved.
3. Treatment of the retaining Wall.
4. Removal of P.G.&E. poles and related electrical problems.
The representatives of the Francis Drake Lodge No. 376 voiced
their concern in the following areas:
1. Bumper Stoppers
It was their understanding that bumper stoppers would be
installed as this would alleviate the overhang on to the
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Walnut Avenue
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sidewalk leaving more room for the pedestrians. Mr.
Anderson explained that bumper stoppers will not be
installed mainly because pedestrians will stumble and that
would be a City liability, and the other is that it would
be very difficult to keep clean.
2. Sidewalk Width
A lengthy discussion followed on the actual footage
available for the pedestrians after cutting it down to
five feet. They indicated that, with the installation
of the meters, the overhang, whether it be compact or
regular vehicles, the angle of parking 30 degree or
45 degree and with the utility grates that it might be
too narrow. It was agreed that Engineering study this
matter.
3. Angle of Parking
They stated that City Ordinance 353 deems angle parking
be at 30 degree. Mr. Anderson was not aware of this
ordinance and will check into it; however, we do have a
45 degree angle on the parking lots. They maintain that
Walnut Avenue is a thoroughfare and not a parking lot,
and it is unfair to apply parking lot standards.
Loading Zone/Walkway
Several concepts were discussed as to whether this should
be a loading zone with meters or have some kind of walk-
way with planters and trees. If the walkway concept were
to.be used, Mr. Yee indicated that Police Department would
have to be consulted. Another problem may be the gas meteY
located in the entry way.
5. Water Leakage
When the Church and the alley were built, about a year or
so later, they had water leakage in the basement. Evidentl
there was an old creek and the movement and disturbance
caused the flooding. Their concern is that the cutting
of the sidewalk or any reconstruction that might disturb
the terrain may cause flooding again.
A general discussion was held on the various aspects of the
concept with both the Parking Place Commission and the members
of the lodge voicing their view points.
The representatives of the lodge expressed their opinion that
the Parking Place District and the City were inconsistent in
their planning. The Downtown Revitalization Project was to
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Commission
OLD BUSINESS:
(Continued)
Walnut Avenue
(Continued)
New Lot on Miller
Avenue
Joint Meeting with
City Council -
August 13, 1980
enhance the aesthetic and environmental surrounding, but
in doing so, 45 parking spaces are being eliminated. Walnut
Avenue is being increased in parking density which will mean
removal of trees, and the environmental and aesthetic impact
will be affected. The Commission stated they want to develop
Walnut Avenue to the fullest; and, in doing so, will make it
aesthetically pleasing by replacing trees and shrubberies.
It was ~greed by all that additional parking space was needed.
Presently, the lodge has become the focal point for San
Francisco and San Mateo County; and, too, the temple does
have some commercial property on Grand Avenue. Chairman Penna
questioned if the lodge members were in agreement with the
plan; and, if so,.it would become a design problem which
can be worked out. The members requested if a concise plan
could be shown to better understand the concept. Mr. Anderson
stated that the plan was incomplete, and the second half
will be developed.
Mr. Anderson commented that the new estimate would be approx-
imately $110,000. The question was raised what portion of
the cost woUld the City incur and the cost to the lodge.
Mr. Anderson related that if there is something that the
lodge desires over and beyond the necessities of a safe-and-
sound.project, we would then look to the lodge to make a
contribution for that extra.
Mr. Anderson said the lot had been cleared, and they should
start the next phase very shortly. Mr. Penna questioned why
the concrete was not removed at the same time. Mr. Anderson
believes' that a subcontractor should be doing the next phase.
Mr. Anderson declared that the Agenda was very brief; but,
obviously, Walnut Avenue Concept will be the main concern.
Mr. Rosaia inquired if it was possible to have Mr. D'Amico's
plan at the meeting. Mr. Anderson explained that there was
so much difference of opinion at the'staff level, he would
rather have it ~oned out before presenting the plan, Mr.
Rosaia does not fully agree with~some of the concepts;
but feels that if the Council.can see the plans, they would
have a general idea of what the Commission is trying to
accomplish.
Chairman Penna inquired whether Mr. Dell'Angela would be
present at this meeting. Mr. Anderson replied that Mr.
Dell'Angela was on vacation; and since this meeting would
be basically a study session, his presence would not be
necessary. Mr. Anderson further related that this joint
meeting was to improve the rapport and that it will not be
necessary to go into details but to stay on a conceptual basis.
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Joint Meeting with
City Council -
August 13, 1980
(Continued)
Cypress/Miller Lot
Blue Sky Session
NEW BUSINESS:
Exchange of Minutes
Planning/Parking Place
Establishment of Time
Limits on the Meters
City Hall Parking Lot
The Council should be made aware that the Commission is
looking into various areas in trying to improve parking.
The Commission has acquired the lot on the north side of
Miller Avenue (300 block), as suggested by Council., and is
now under construction. Walnut Avenue is under design, but
it is proving to be a difficult project because of the
aesthetic and environmental concerns.
Chairman Penna was in doubt as to how to approach the
Council on the Environmental Impact Report together with
the letter he signed. Mr. Anderson suggested that we wait
for the results and then see what the legality requirements
will be and what the Planning Commission requires.
Mr. Flanders has not approached the Commission with any plans.
Mr. Anderson suggested that, in the near future, a session
be held with the Planning Commission to discuss financial
problems, criteria to establish parking requirements, and
fresh approaches to upcoming projects.
Chairman Penna requested that the Parking Place Commission
Minutes be sent to the Planning Commission; and, in turn
receive their Minutes or sections which would affect only
the District so that both Commissions are aware of the plans
being formulated. ~
Chairman Penna inquired if the Police Department had been
contacted regarding the proposed change of time limit on
the meters. Mr. Anderson explained that the establishment
of time-limit change is accomplished by going to the Council
by ordinance. Chairman P~nna still requested that the Police
Department be contacted.
The use of the City Hall parking lot was discussed.
The meeting was adjourned at 5:08 p.m.
APPROVED:
airman
Respectful ly submitted,
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TIME:
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CALL TO ORDER:
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OLD BUSINESS:
Walnut Avenue
REGULAR MEETING
PARKING PLACE COMMISSION
CITY OF SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO
TUESDAY, JUNE 10, 1980
Large Conference Room, City Hall
~ITY
The meeting was called to order
Chairman Penna.
Present:
Chairman John Penna
Commissioner Dennis Rosaia
Director, Public Services Bob Yee
Sr. Planner Daniel Christians
Mr. Patrick Flanders
Finance Director William R. Anderson
Absent: Commissioner Peter Ruggeri informed Staff
he would be out of the City.
The minutes of May 13, 1980, regular meeting
was approved and signed by the Commission.
Mr. Anderson was in receipt of a memo (copy) from
the Fire Marshall to the Director of Community Develop-
ment objecting to the proposal as submitted and if ~
necessary would attend the Planning Commission meeting
on June 10, 1980. Mr. Anderson received a verbal reply
to the effect that the Fire Department Would require
20 feet right-of-way for fire and rescue vehicles.
Mr. Yee presented a new concept with 41 parking space,
20 feet right-of-way for fire and rescue vehicles and
20 feet of space between cars as required by the
Ordinance. The cost of this concept was roughly es-
timated at $5,000 per space.
Discussion followed on: 1. Environmental impact.
2. Whether one-way street would be detrimental
to the street concept.
3. Congestion.
4. Need for a traffic study.
Mr. Anderson commented that one of the concept is in
turning this into a semi-street parking. This would be
for long term parking, employee type, and we would
request Council to approve five hour meters. A few
meters for short term parking would be available for
library patrons.
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June 10, 1980
ission
Walnut Avenue (continued)
Miller Avenue
Joint Meeting with Council
Cypress/Miller Lot
Acquire 25 feet west side
of Cypress Avenue
NEW BUSINESS
Traffic on Grand Avenue
Chairman Penna questioned if the sidewalk was neces-
sary. Mr. Anderson declared that the City is self-
insured and will insist on a sidewalk with the parking
facility.
The problem of handicapped parking was brought up. Mr.
Yee commented that it will depend upon the needs and the
location that each parking lot will be surveyed.
Chairman Penna agreed to attend the Planning Commission
meeting scheduled for June 11, 1980.
Mr. Anderson announced that the bid will be opened
June 11 at 11:00 a.m~ Commissioner Rosaia asked how
many bids were received. Mr. Anderson responded ap-
proximately six to eight bids. Chairman Penna questioned
who was presently using the lot. Mr. Anderson said
permission was given to Huettig & Schromm, Inc. to use
the lot temporarily until the contract was awarded.
Scheduled for August 13, 1980.
Mr. Patrick J. Flanders, President of Flanders Bay
Company - Architect/Developer, was present at the meeting.
He was representing the Benedetti's who owns the property
that the Ford Dealership is now using. Mr. Anderson
clarified that Mr. Flanders had contacted him several
days ago inquiring about the 75 feet lot on the 200
block of Grand Avenue, north side of the street, if the
District would be amenable to selling a portion of the
lot to incorporate into a parking venture. It was
explained to Mr. Flanders that the Commission prefers
not to have frontage for the lots on Grand Avenue and
that it be developed. Mr. Flanders~related that he.
had no actual proposal but wanted to know what they
could build and what the requirements would be. He
was then referred to the Community Development Department.
Parking Place Commission adjourned to an executive
session at 3:30 p.m.
The meeting was recalled to order at 4:15 p.m.
Mr. Anderson stated that a memo will be sent to the
City Engineer for his review.
Chairman Penna requested if the traffic flow could be
reversed, one way going east in the morning and west
in the afternoon. Mr. Anderson stated due to the angle
of parking it was impossible to do so.
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Traffic on Grand Avenue
(continued)
Sodium Lights
Parking Meters
A very lengthy discussion followed regarding the
traffic flow while working on the south side and what
would happend when the work progresses to the north
side. Mr. Yee explained in detail as it relates to the
traffic signals. Mr. Yee clarified that when work is
being done on the north side, south side will be available
for parking, however, it will not be stripped nor would
it be metered. Commissioner Penna related that revenue
is now being lost due to the removal of meters on the
south side. He questioned whether it would be possible
to have the meters installed on the south side, paint
temporary stripping and upon completion cover the paint
with the overlay. Mr. Yee was in agreement with the
plan. Mr. Anderson stated the:parking meters will be
ordered beginning of July and should be delivered within
30 days.
The Commission discussed whether the traffic flow could
be reversed when work is in progress on the north side.
Mr. Yee replied that it will be no problem as long as
everyone is in agreement. He suggested that this matter
will be discussed before the end of July.
Mr. Anderson stated that Grand Avenue will have high
pressure sodium lights. It was suggested that all
Parking District Lots be replaced with the high pressure
sodium lights. The initial cost for replacement will
have to be checked. However, the sodium lights will
cost less to operate and will give more light and conserve
energy. Mr. Anderson will check into the cost before
the budget is finalized. Chairman Penna and Commissioner
Rosaia was in agreement with the new lighting.
Mr. Anderson displayed a brochure on the dual meters with
the post. Chairman Penna questioned what will happen
to our old meters. The old meters will be discarded since
the parts are not interchangeable. The moderately aged
meters will be turned in on an exchange basis for the
dual meters at the cost of $65 each, without the exChange
the cost would approximately be $100 each. It was also
suggested by Mr. John Previti that we purchase round
plates for the base of the post which will improve the
appearance greatly and the cost will be about $2.00 per
plate. Mr. Anderson advised that about $12,000 be al-
located in the budget for new meters and plates.
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Budget
Blue Sky Concept
The budget was discussed with the Commission. Mr.
Anderson stated for the current year $93,000 was
estimated revenue; $93,700 was taken in through
May 22, which is 89 percent of the year. We have
79% of the revenue not counting interest income.
A new estimate must be made on the parking permit
fees - the parking meters are running short of the
budget, however, our permit fees are 234% above.
Mr. Anderson further stated overall additional
revenue of $6,000 to $8,000 from the meters and
$20,000 to $25,000 earnings by the City Treasurer
are expected. Next year with the increase in
capital costs and with the reduction in revenue from
July to October we will not have the normal revenue
but we will not likely have to go into the reserves.
It was agreed that at the next Parking Place Commission
meeting a discussion will be held with the Planning
personnel on the Blue Sky concept.
The meeting was adjourned at 5:00 p,m.
APPROVED:
Respectful ly submitted:
MI NUTES:
OLD BUSINESS:
Walnut Avenue
REGULAR MEETING
PARKING PLACE COMMISSION
CITY OF SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO
TUESDAY, MAY 13, 1'980
3:10 P.M.
Large Conference Room, City Hall
The meeting was called to order at 3:10 p.m.
by Chairman Penna
Present:
Chairman John Penna
Commissioner Dennis Rosaia
Engineer Arthur Wong
Engineer Terrace "Terry" Leong
Finance Director William R. Anderson
Absent: Commissioner Peter Rugerri (Medical
Appointment)
The minutes of March ll, 1980, regular meeting
was approved and signed by the Commission.
A Staff Report was prepared by the Director of
Community Development for ~he Pl~n~ihg Commission
meeting of May 13, 1980. The report recommends that
the proposal not be implemented until a comprehensive
traffic study is conducted. Also, a memorandum from
the Fire Marshal's office to the Director of Community
Development stating they objected to the proposal in
general terms. A lengthy discussio'n followed as to
what the objections might be: due to three large
assemblages, not enough space for movement of vehicles,
what to do with the people when a building is
evacuated plus enough space for all emergency vehicles.
Chairman Penna questioned if we had any alternatives.
A discussion followed if by changing the angle of
parking whether footage would be gained but would it
be sufficient by the Fire Department standards, if by
changing one side for compact cars only, would enough
space be gained. Mr. Wong stated that he would have
to check to see if the same rules apply to parking lots
and on street parking for compact cars.
The Police Department is in agreement with the pro-
posal, providing no lift gate is placed on the north
end of Walnut Avenue. Mr. Anderson stated they might
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Walnut Avenue (continued)
New Lot On Miller Avenue
(Schuman property) :,,~
have had the impression that we were going to put
a gate and a ticket machine, instead of meters.
Chairman Penna stated Father Durkin called and ex-
pressed some concern about the proposal. Commissioner
Rosaia said he had contacted Father Durkin and to-
gether with Officer Ken Metcal and Mr. Bob Yee
simolated parking with large cars to show that ther~
was enough room. Commissioner Rosaia further stated
that Father Durkin approved the proposal and believes
Father Durkin was in opposition of the lift gate.
Chairman Penna requested permission from the Parking
Place Commission to attend the Planning Commission
meeting to say that we are in direct conflict with
the recommendation from the Planning Commission. We
have already met with all members of staff and that
they were aware of the plans. This is the first that
we are being made aware that Planning Commission
knows nothing about it especially with the recommenda-
tion of the Downtown Revitalization Project and not
be aware of this project.
Engineer Terry Leong presented the plans conforming
to the Planning Commission ~Oning ordinance. Mr.
Leong stated they were able to get 20 spaces, the same
as the adjacent lots, compact vehicles on one side and
regular size vehicle on the other side. Chairman Penna
questioned if this lot was any different from the other
two lots. Mr. Leong stated that the other two lots
does not conform to the zoning ordinance. The zoning
ordinance requires 45 degree angle parking and 14 feet
of space between vehicles. Chairman Penna questioned
why the other two lots did not conform. Mr. Wong
stated when the plans were being drawn for the two lots,
the Planning Commission was not aware of it, but in
this instance they noticed that we were working on the
plans.and indicated the requirements.
Discussion followed and questions were raised on the
estimate. Chairman Penna asked why the driveway had
to be removed. Mr. Leong stated that it was not wide
enough on Miller Avenue that it required 15 feet.
Chairman Penna questioned why the removal of the con-
crete slab was not included with demolishing and
removing of the building and foundation. Mr. Wong
stated that removal of concrete slab was very expensive.
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New Lot On Miller Avenue
(continued)
Mr. Wong further explained that the estimate was
broken down in that it was easier to estimate and
it was their best estimate. Chairman Penna questioned
whether we should have two contractors, one for
demolition, one for construction. Mr. Wong advised
that we have one prime contractor since he would be
capable of calling anyone in the various phase of
the work at a lower cost. Mr. Anderson was in agree-
ment, rather than to go out on three or four bids to
do each item and act as our general contractor.
Chairman Penna would like to approve the construction
and also approve the demolition but at a lower bid.
Mr. Wong stated he could refine the demolition cost
to a lower bid, however, the construction cost was
fairly accurate. After much discussion it was agreed
that the bid range would be from $25,000 to $30,000.
Mr. Anderson stated that we are not salvaging anything
that it will be lump sum to the contractor.
Commissioner Rosaia questioned who finally awards the
bid. Mr. Anderson stated the Parking Place Commission
authorize the project and it will-he-up to the Council
to award the bid. -~"
Commissioner Penna was instructed by Mr, John Penna,
377 Grand Avenue, South San Francisco, who owns the
adjacent property, that the garage roof is attached
to the Schuman building. Mr. Wong advised that the
owner should be contacted to sever the building, other-
wise the contractor will have to support the garage
and that is a cost to the City.
Mr. Anderson stated the lighting will be the high
pressure sodium. He further stated that for next
year's budget he will include $300 per light for the
additional lighting for the adjacent parking lots.
The plan was approved and passed, with the stipulation
that Engineering change the estimate. It was recommended
that City Council go out for bid.
Joint Meeting With Council Scheduled fOr August 13, 1980.
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May 13, 1980
Master Parking Plan
Cypress/Miller Lot
Cypress & Grand Avenue
Meters
Baden Avenue
NEW BUSINESS
Mr. Anderson stated due to so many projects going
on internally Mr. D'Amico was not contacted.
Chairman Penna asked if it should be taken off the
agenda. Commissioner Rosaia was against it and stated
it should not be paid until we see the plan. Mr.
Anderson stated that it will not be paid until we see the
plan. Commissioner Rosaia made a motion that it be'
eliminated from the agenda until such time when the
plan is developed.
Mr. Anderson stated no response as yet, will send
another letter. Mr. Anderson further stated that he
feels that they will have no interest in selling or
leasing the property.
Mr. Anderson stated two to three meters were taken
out. One portion painted in blue and two curb portion
painted red for the bus stop. The blue curb is in
front of J. & Jo Orthopedics. The ordinance is not
yet in effect and is still at staff level.
Chairman Penna questioned if we had any further
response from the~ people on Baden. Avenue. Mr. Anderson
stated nothing more than the single 50 feet lot. Aged
father lives on the property and the owner of the
property is aware that we are interested.
Chairman Penna requested an accounting of the treasury.
Mr. Anderson reported that $114,000 balance going into
the fiscal year last July 1, and we should pick up
$40,000 to $45,000 during this year up to June 30,
a total of $160,000 minus $30,000 for the new lot"
with a balance then of $130,000. Chairman Penna
stated there are sufficient funds to take care of
Walnut Avenue and funds left over to buy a lot if
necessary.
Chairman Penna stated it was recommended to him that
Parking Place Commission should consider widening
Cypress Avenue by purchasing 10 feet or even 20 feet
and make Cypress Avenue a loop. It was recommended
that we take the west side of Cypress Avenue, Baden to
Miller. Mr. Anderson stated part of D'Amico's plan
was to acquire the whole lot from Baden Avenue to the
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May 13, 1980
NEW BUSINESS (continued)
to the alley to make a parking lot. Chairman
Penna stated that the City purchase 25 feet and
widen Cypress Avenue to 55 feet which would create
more on-street parking. Chairman Penna further
stated that it could be reasonably purchased now
because there are few buildings to contend with and
the buildings are old, possibly have only two
business to relocate. Mr. Anderson con~nented that
the City does not have the money now for capital
projects. Chairman Penna suggest that the City
propose it now to show that City has the intention
of purchasing if any of the buildings are destroyed,
Meeting was adjourned at 5:00 p.m.
APPROVED:
Respectfully submitted:
REGULAR MEETING
PARKING PLACE COMMISSION
CITY OF SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 12, 1980
TIME:
PLACE:
CALL TO ORDER:
MINUTES:
ELECTION OF OFFICERS:
OLD BUSINESS:
a. Walnut Avenue
b. New Lot on Miller Ave.
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3:28 P.M.
Large Conference Room, City Hall
The meeting was called to order at 3:28 P.M. by
Chai. rman Penna.
Present:
Chairman John Penna
Commissioner Dennis Rosaia
Director of Public Services Robert S. Yee
Officer Michael Dickson
Finance Director William R. Anderson
Absent: Commissioner Peter Ruggeri
The minutes of December 11, 1979, regular meeting
was approved and signed by the Commission.
Commissioner Rosaia made a motion that the same
officers remain in term for another year. It was
seconded by Chairman Penna and unanimously passed.
Due to a misunderstanding, Father Durkin and the
Masonic Temple were not contacted. Commissioner Rosaia
will contact Father Durkin, Chairman Penna will contact
Masonic Temple. A report will be submitted for the
next meeting.
Chairman Penna believes that we will really have
parking problems with the Croatian Society and the
Downtown Revitalization Program, to facilitate
parking on Walnut Avenue.
Commissioner Rosaia thought a formal bid was submitted.
Chairman Penna stated at one time there was a bid but
it was too high, Mr, Anderson said that the pricing
was done by Public Works. Commissioner Rosaia inquired
if we could have a formal bid by the next meeting, Mr.
Anderson stated formal bids would not be available but
will confer with the Director of Public Servi'ces and the
Purchasing Offcer and will have an outline by the next
meeting.
Chairman Penna, Commissioner Rosaia and Director of
Public Services was in agreement that the bid should be
sent out as soon as possible so that the lot will be
available.
Discussion followed regarding the removal of the under-
ground tank. It was agreed that Director of Public
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b. New Lot on Miller Ave.
( continued)
c.. 400 Block Baden_.Ave.
2. JOINT MEETING WITH
COUNCIL
3. MASTER PARKING PLAN
Services and the Fire Department will be contacted
to find the safe and inexpensive method of removal.
Mr. Yee requested if it would be possible to use
this lot in conjunction with the Revitalization
Project of Grand Avenue. Parking.space would be
required for the construction trailer. A lengthy
discussion followed on the pros and cons of using
parking space on the corner of Maple and Grand Avenue
or using the parking lot at Maple and Miller.
Chairman Penna was in favor of the trailer being
parked on the street, stated that this would be a
good opportunity for the public to be made aware of
the parking lots. Mr. Yee stated that if the trailer
was parked on the street, it would create traffic
hazard, loss of revenue, and complaints fro~ the
merchants and the public that premium parking space
was taken up. It was agreed that the parking lot
across the street from the Police Department be
made available for the construction trailer.
Commissioner Rosaia inquired if any favorable comments
were received from the property owners. Mr. Anderson
stated he talked to a conservator of the estate. Mr.
Rosaia said that one property owner resides in Palo
Alto and may be interested in selling, believes the
property is located between Carelli and Fourie.
Mr. Anderson will check with the Purchasing Officer
and contact the owner.
Mr. Anderson stated that it was scheduled for March
12, 1980. Chairman Penna and Commissioner Rosaia
inquired if it were possible to wait until the new
Council is in office. Mr. Anderson will try to
schedule it for May.
Chairman Penna inquired if this was coming up on
the agenda, for February 13, 1980. Mr. Anderson stated
that the Downtown Revitalization Project will be going
out for bid. Mr. D'Amico should be submitting a
summary of the Master Parking Plan so it could be
finalized.
Commissioner Rosaia questioned if they were paid in
full. Mr. Anderson commented that only a partial
payment was made.
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4. CYPRESS/MILLER LOT
NEW BUSINESS:
J & J Orthopedics
Handicapped Parking
Signs
Directional Signs
No action taken at this time. Commissioner Rosaia
questioned if additional information was forthcoming.
Mr. Anderson stated he will contact the owner if
they are interested in selling or leasing it to the
Parking District. Chairman Penna asked if this in-
formation can be available for the next meeting.
Mr. Anderson will have the information.
Present sign for Handicapped is unenforceable until
Council adopts an ordinance.
Mr. Anderson displayed the new signs for the Miller
Avenue parking lot. As discussed in the December
meeting, per Chairman Penna, permit parking would
be designated adjacent to Miller Avenue. Commissioner
Rosaia was not in agreement, in that signs will have
to be posted on both sides and may cause some confusion.
It was agreed that permit parking be designated on the
side adjacent to existing permit lot.
Mr. Anderson stated that Mr. Previti will be installing
the signs within the next week or so.
Mr. Yee stated that the Downtown Revitalization project
had been their main concentration. A lengthy dis-
cussion followed on the placement of the signs,
number of signs to be placed, what type of signs.'
Mr. Yee expressed the desire that the installation of
signs be accomplished in the best possible way. He
would like to study the parking lots for: placement
of signs, number of signs required, type of signs which
would be compatible to the surrounding. He would like
to make a study of the peninsula in relations to placement
and type of signs.
Since the funding is from the Parking Place Commission,
it was suggested that it be incorporated with the
Downtown Revitalization Plan. This was accepted un-
animously, therefore, it was requested that Mr. Yee
have plans drawn in time for the next meeting. Mr. Yee
stated that it would be June or July before the signs
could be put up. Chairman Penna and Mr. Anderson
suggested that temporary signs might be placed during
construction.
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of February 12, 1980
Directional Signs
(continued)
Mr. Yee asked if maps were going to be given out
during construction to the public indicating the
parking lots. Various means of distribution was
discussed. Commissioner Rosaia believes that only
a few will be aware of such handouts. Mr. Anderson
suggested that the merchants handout the maps.
Mr. Yee, for the record, showed the propoposed Down-
town Revitalization Plan. Mr. Yee was commended on
the plan. Councilwoman Teglia interruPted the meeting
requested that Cub Scouts Den l, be given a very
brief explanation of the plan for Grand Avenue.
Meters
Mr. Anderson explained that the doubleheaded meters
will be on a single post. Department of Public
Services will put up the posts and the Parking Place
Commission will buy the doublehead casings. Com-
missioner Rosaia questioned whether we can use the
existing heads. Mr. Anderson replied that the
mechanism can be used but the doubleheaded casing
must be purchased.
Commissioner Rosaia questioned on the loss of parking
space with the Downtown Revitalization Plan. Mr.
Yee stated the loss in parking space was mostly due
to bus stops. Exact figures are not available at
this time.
Lighting
A brief comment was made by Mr. Yee on the light posts.
The light posts will be blasted, repainted with trim
and will have the high pressure sodium lights. Mr.
Anderson stated that Captain Raymond McKeon could
not make this meeting to show a film on street lighting,
typing in with the lighting on the parking lots. Mr.
Anderson further commented that the initial installation
may be costly but the operating cost will be less.
Self-Insurance Liability
Joint Powers Authority
Mr. Anderson announced that the Citywent into self-
insurance on liability insurance as part of a Joint
Powers Authority. The City is now responsible for the
first $100,000 per accident and purchased excess insurance
up to 10 million dollars. General Funds, Sewer Fund,
Parking District Fund and the Common Greens are all
going to share the cost in relationship to their budget.
Parking District charge for this year will be $845.00.
Previously the General Funds paid for it all.
Meeting was adjourned at 4:15 p.m.
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Respectful ly submi ttedc~_~zJ~ 2~zJ~-~.~
REGULAR MEETING
PARKING PLACE COMMISSION'
CITY OF SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO'
TUESDAY, MARCH ll, 1980
TIME:
PLACE:
CALL TO ORDER:
MINUTES:
OLD BUSINESS:
Walnut Avenue
3:15 P.M.
Large Conference Room, City Hall
The meeting was called to order at 3:15 p.m.
by Chairman Penna.
Present:
Chairman John Penna
Commissioner Dennis Rosaia
Commissioner Peter Ruggeri
Officer Kenneth Metcalf
Finance Director William R. Anderson
The minutes of February 12, 1980, regular meeting
was approved and signed by the Commission
Commissioner Rosaia contacted Father Durkin and he
had no objections to the plan. However, Father Durkin
questioned if enough space would be allocated for:
the hearse parked on Miller Avenue to make the turn on
to Walnut Avenue and vehicles exiting from the school
ground on to Walnut Avenue. Commissioner Rosaia upon
contacting Mr. Yee agreed that they would simulate the
situation to satisfy Father Durkin.
Chairman Penna contacted the Masonic Temple. They were
in favor of the plan but requested that for the side-
walk removal, more be taken off the library side.
Chairman Penna requested that if possible all the trees
not be removed. Mr. Anderson stated that it would be
up to the Parks and Public Services Division.
Mr. Anderson asked if parking meters are going to be
installed, if so would it be timed for all day.
Chairman Penna stated it would be timed for five hours.
Discussion followed regarding the rates. In establishing
rates an ordinance will be needed, and also some of the
street is outside of the Parking District and it might
reqoire Council approval.
Commissioner Ruggeri stated that the residents in the
area be contacted before any changes are made to insure
that we have no problems during and upon completion of
the project. Mr. Anderson was of the opinion that the
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March ll, 1980
Walnut Avenue (continued)
Miller Avenue
residents would not be dislocated, but employees
working in the area would be affected. Various methods
of contacting the residents were discussed. Mr.
Anderson suggested the Planning Commission be contacted
to find out the legal procedure used in notfying the
residents.
Commissioner Rosaia questioned the next step to be
taken. Mr. Anderson stated that the existing design
concept should be checked by the Planning Commission and
also by the City Council in that we are changing the
nature of the street. Officer Metcalf stated that the
Police Department had no objections as long as the
residents had no objections~
Chairman Penna inquired if any funds from the City,
State or Federal were available. Mr. Anderson would
confer with Mr. Yee. It is questionable whether Gas
Tax monies can be used since it is turning into a parking
lot, though it will still be a one-way street. Mr.
Anderson further stated that they are trying to hold it
for North Airport Boulevard and E1Camino since Gas
Tax revenue is the only source for such major roadwork.
Mr. Anderson had requested for an estimate but Engineering
had priorities with the Downtown Revitalization Program
and Airport Boulevard, Northerly in that FAU funds 80
percent of the cost. Upon checking into estimates
made by the Public Works about a year ago to clear the
property, new fencing along the lane and putting a
a rock surface would cost about $3,000 which would not
serve any purpose. Engineering stated without drawing
any plans, their very rough estimate cost would be in
the neighborhood o~.f 2_~2~000. The cost of the Walnut
~-6~ nd Schuman property
Avenue project i~$~_0~_00-~ ~ . . .
and we do have the funds to proceed. Commissioner Ruggerl
asked what the $25,000 covers, that the cost seems high.
Mr. Anderson explained that the property would be finished
off the same as the lot next door, putting in a meter for
all day parking and would include clearing off the
property. Mr. Anderson'further stated that we have over
$100,000 balance coming into this current fiscal year
and another $40,000 to $50,000 additional. If the
Downtown Revitalization goes through we will need all
the extra parking spaces.
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March ll, 1980
mission
Miller Avenue (continued)
400 Block Baden Avenue
Joint Meeting With Council
Master Parking Plan
Cypress/Miller Lot
NEW BUSINESS
Mr. John Previti
J. & J, Orthopedics
If agreeable with the Commission, Engineering will
be requested to draw up the plans as soon as possible,
finalize it and go out for bid. We would go out on a
single project and provide enough time from award of
the bid to the completion date so that they can dis-
mantle or demolish the building.
Commissioner Rosaia made a motion that the Public
Works set some plans for the redevelopment of the
Schuman property. Commissioner Ru§geri seconded the
motion and it was unanimously carried.
Mr. Anderson reported that a response was received
from the property owner (between Fouri & Carelli).
Presently it is occupied by an elderly gentleman and
is not interested in selling. The conservator of the
estate (daughter) is aware of the City's interest in
the property and that the City may have funds to
purchase the property. She stated if it is going
on the market the City will be contacted.
Scheduled on May 4, 1980, Wednesday. It may be
possible we will be in a position to discuss the
Walnut Avenue project and perhaps the Schuman property
project.
Mr. Anderson stated a meeting with Mr. D'Amico and
staff will have to be scheduled.
Mr. Anderson reported that a letter was sent asking
whether they would be interested in leasing or selling
the property and to this date no reply has been received.
Presently South City Ford is using it to stOre their
trucks.
Commissioner Ruggeri stated he was approached by '
Mr. Previti regarding a raise and promotion. Mr.
Anderson stated that it comes under the City's negotia-
tion with the unit that represents him and has nothing
to do with the Parking Place Commission.
Officer Metcalf questioned whether the handicapped
parking space is to remain. J. & J. Orthopedics is
going to complain about others parking in the zone.
The Police Department will be faced with a'problem
since it is not enforceable. Also it is still metered,
and handicapped persons do not feed the meter. 'Chairman
Penna stated that non-handica_p~s will feed the meter,
therefore, it is still producing revenue. Mr. Anderson
commented that a memo was sent to Public Services and
the Police Department suggesting that the handicapped
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J & J Orthopedics (continued)
Sam Trans
Downtown Development
Planning Commission - Parking
zone remain on the basis of a psychological
trial to see if it would produce the result that
J. & J. Orthopedic is looking for. There will be
handicapped spaces when the Downtown Revitalization
is completed, which will require City Council to
provide the ordinance.
Commissioner Rosaia stated he was approached by
the manger of the First National Bank of Daly City
regarding traffic and parking problems with the Sam
Trans buses on Cypress Avenue. Lenthy discussion
followed as to the cause of the problem and how the
situation could be alleviated. Commissioner Rosaia
commented that removing some of the meters would
help but did not want to volunteer to do this.
Mr. Anderson suggested that we wait, it would be
up to the Police Department and the City Engineer
to make this decision.
Officer Metcalf commented that they are having
similar problems at the new Municipal Services
Building.
Commissioner Rosaia was approached by a civil engineer,
learning he was on the Parking Place Commission, that
they are interested in buying the property on the
south side of Grand Avenue on the 200 block.
Commissioner ~osaia advised him to contact the
Plannin§ Commission regarding the property. It
seems there is a group interested in redeveloping
the lower part of Grand Avenue from Linden to
Cypress and want to provide more parking space, that
the Commission should be aware of this.
A very lengthy discussion was held whether the
Commission should get involved in the parking program.
Should the Commission have the power to okay structures,
whether it be an office building, senior citizen
complex, to be built and designate that it have a
given number of parking space per unit, or office.
Previously Councilwoman Teglia came before the
Planning Commission with a stipulation that they
were required to come before the Commission.
Chairman Penna stated the Commission did get involved,
but in the end the decision was made by the Planning
Commission. It is the opinion of Chairman Penna
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March ll, 1980
Planning Commission - Parking
(continued)
that the Commission's concerns are to pay for the
bonds and provide for parking as needed. However,
with expansion of the City we are going to be in a
position to say something about what kind of
parking facilities would be involved.
The meeting was adjourned at 4:30 p.m.
APPROVED:
Respectfully submitted: