HomeMy WebLinkAboutRDA Minutes 1994-09-21 Chairman Joseph A. Fernekes M I N U T E S
Boardmembers:
Jack Drago Redevelopment Agency
John R. Penna
Roberta Cerri Teglia Municipal Services"Building
Robert Yee
Community Room
September 21, 1994
AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
CALL TO ORDER: (Cassette No. 1) 7:35 p.m. Chairman Fernekes presiding.
ROLL CALL: Boardmembers present: Drago, Penna, Yee and
Fernekes.
Boardmembers absent: Teglia.
Clerk Battaya explained that Boardmember Teglia
.~'qO~ was in Italy on business.
1. Study session to discuss the McLellan property. Interim Director of Economic & Community Devel-
opment Beyer explained: Council adopted the El
Camino Corridor Redevelopment Plan and a General
' Plan Amendment in July of 1993; the Amendment
provided a two tier approach to the designation
of the McLellan Nursery property; it provided that
the existing General Plan designations will remain
in effect until the City has an irrevocable agreement
with BART/SamTrans that the subway configuration
will be built and until BART/SamTrans has funding
commitments to build the project; in the interim,
all property owners will have full development
rights under the existing General Plan and zoning
designations; as applied to the McLellan Nursery, an
unincorporated area within the City's Sphere of
Influence, the General Plan provides that the
McLellan Nursery should be annexed to the City
and designated medium density residential (15 du/net
acre) along the El Camino Real frontage and low
density residential (8 du/net acre) in the rear - with a
small portion designated open space; when the con-
ditions have been met, the General Plan provides
the McLellan Nursery should be annexed to the City
and the site designated for a transit oriented density
of 25 dwelling units to the acre; the Redevelopment
Plan contemplates the development of 733 dwelling
~ units on the site.
He stated that the main objective of the El Camino
Corridor Redevelopment Area was to finance the
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1. Study session - Continued. cost differential between constructing tfi~ BART
Extension in an open trench versus the cost of a
subway. He stated that the estimated cost, since
the Redevelopment District was established, has
been increased from $23 million to over $40 mil-
lion.
He stated that Steve Solomon will present the con-
cept of Greystone Homes and he will talk about the
redevelopment implications, as we understand them,
in relationship to the current General Plan and the
change if the BART Extension goes forward.
Chief Planner Solomon stated that Greystone Homes
is also here and is interested in presenting an infor-
mal presentation.
He proceeded to explain the current prezoning: the
front is R-2, duplex zoning; the rear portion would
allow single family homes, with about 8 units per
acre; staff's estimate is about 244 units overall;
Greystone's plan is 63 single family homes, at 9
units per acre, 105 triplex units, at 15 units per
acre, and 162 tenplex units, at 18 units per acre, for
a total of 330 units; the El Camino Corridor Area
addresses the site and describes the concept of re-
duced density towards the rear and an increased
density towards El Camino; the General Plan re-
quires netting out the streets, which results in the
difference between the Greystone plan and the City's
in the number of units.
Interim Director of Economic & Community Devel-
opment Beyer discussed the redevelopment implica-
tions: the Redevelopment Plan is based on the
development of higher density projects with a suffi-
cient number of dwelling units to generate enough
tax increment to fund a portion of the costs of
undergrounding BART through the Project area;
staff did a preliminary analysis comparing tax incre-
ment generation of the proposed development with
that projected in the Redevelopment Plan and
found the proposal would generate about one-half of
the tax increment, which would be generated by the
733 dwelling units projected in the Plan; the
McLellan property was projected to be developed at
155 units per year for five years, commencing in
1995-96; the revenues generated as opposed to the
Greystone Homes project; there were 30 acres total;
a major purpose of the El Camino Corridor Rede-
velopment Plan is to generate enough to pay a
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1. Study session - Continued. local share for the undergrounding; etc.
He stated that, based on a meeting with the Mayor,
Acting City Manager and BART General Manager
Richard White last week, the General Manager indi-
cated that no local funding for the BART Extension
is being considered at this time. He projected that
the funding package for the project should be in
place before the end of the year and we will not be
required to come up with a local share to put the
system underground.
Discussion followed: BART is still short, perhaps
$3 million in the funding, so, this option is still
viable; the Agency was in a catch 22 position on this
- if you want to protect the redevelopment, you
support the project with the increment, however, the
way the General Plan Amendment was adopted, the
property owner has rights to move forward to devel-
opment and the City has to review the plans; staff
needed a general consensus on whether they can
work with this group or other groups until we know
where Bart is coming from; there is one other policy
issue that relates to housing and redevelopment
housing; under the law any housing built in a rede-
velopment area has to provide 15% of the units for
low housing; a policy or program has to be dis-
cussed in the future and implemented as units devel-
op; this is true of all housing developed in a redevel-
opment area by the Agency or by private parties; an
ordinance could be adopted requiring either that
15% of the units in each project be provided as low
income or it could be dealt with on a project wide
basis; how low cost housing figures are developed -
where they are not more than 30% of a person's
income; Boardmember Penna wanted information on
other cities that are providing low income housing;
Boardmember Drago felt this was premature until
the BART funding is settled, because that determines
what we will allow; the staff report says the builder
can build right now, regardless of this City's de-
sires; this land is in our Sphere of Influence and in a
redevelopment area; the Greystone Homes project
will generate about 46% of the tax increment over
the life of the redevelopment project; the McLellan
family has indicated they are not interested in annex-
ation unless they have the densities they want;
should wait 30 to 90 days before making any deci-
sions; the Greystone Homes project is 330 units,
which is what is currently allowed by the General
Plan; etc.
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1. Study session - Continued. Mr. Tom Lodatto, Searsville Land Company, stated
two years ago his father was hired by the McLellan
family to determine what was the best use for the
property, because it was prudent to relocate the
business and sell the parcel. So, he had met with
Steve Solomon and the rest of the planning staff to
determine what the City would think is best suited
for the parcel and the zoning if the BART station
goes in. He stated he had tried to dovetail that to
what he perceived of the market and what was eco-
nomical for the parcel. In the course of that, they
met with a home builder and the sentiment was that
any project of this size cannot be more dense than
15 units to the acre or it would not be financeable
and the sales would be so slow that you would be
looking at a build out of ten years. So, regardless
of whether or not we are entitled to that, they would
not come in with a density other than what is pre-
sented tonight.
He spoke highly of Greystone Homes, felt they
enhance the community they are working in and
have the financial wherewithal to build out the entire
site at one time, within 18 months or so rather than
a higher density build out that would take forever to
sell.
He stated that something they had requested, which
was also important to the City, was that the access
to the site be from El Camino only, in order not to
disrupt the community, and so that the single family
homes would have a sufficient buffer, without visual
adverse affects.
Mr. Jeff Shroeder, Greystone Homes, stated that the
market had changed over the last five years and
their goal is to definitely minimize the length of any
particular project time in order that after two years
they are gone and they will not be competing with
owners reselling their homes in this same project
area.
He stated that 18 units to the acre would be town
homes and proceeded to speak at length on price
build outs, what the staff report assumes on price
increases per year and that there is no agree-
ment for Iow and moderate income housing. He
would propose to create a community of different
type housing and address a larger range of the mar-
ket. He stated there were three product types, so
that the product would sell out more quickly, and
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1__. Study session - Continued. the City would get more revenues from the redevel-
opment - more than portrayed in the staff report.
The largest product is 60 units and we would hope
to price them at $200,000 and get out within two
years. The other would sell out prior to that and the
City would have revenue coming in.
He described the housing: the triplexes at 18 units
to the acre would be 1,000 to 1,400 sq. ft., with
two bedrooms; they would be two stories, with at
grade parking, with two car garages; they are all
town houses, except for one unit; the others are
triplexes with a unit over the garage; each has a two
car garage, which is attractive, sells well and gives
everyone an end unit; etc.
Discussion followed: in today's market single fami-
ly homes are the ones primarily selling, due to the
drop in interest rates, which are going back up;
whether a BART station would help sales; etc.
Mr. Frank Lodatto stated he had been a long time
Director of the McLellan Company but was not a
Director at the present time. He stated the
McLellan family has held the property for 40 years,
has not wanted to develop it but he felt taxes are
making them do this. He felt it would be bad for
the City to hold them up and he hoped the City did
not make the mistake of assuming that the higher the
density the more valuable. In the old days that was
true, but today they found the high density they con-
ceived is not even feasible - so, you are looking at
this project or no project.
He believes the project in the Redevelopment Plan is
unfeasible and, if the City held them to it, they . ..
would have nothing. The City should take this pro-
ject into consideration, because they have a fine
planner and builder.
Mr. Lodocca stated he had been involved in higher
density - his firm was the land planners in the Gold-
en Triangle in San Jose, on the light rail. The land
was rezoned by the City, from industrial, to bring
housing near transportation. He stated the builder
has been struggling for over four years on the pro-
,-- ject, because of market conditions, and may end up
going to public financing. He stated that it is diffi-
cult now to get anything over 200 units financed.
Discussion followed: there would be 330 overall
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1. Study session - Continued. units; they had not submitted anything to the Coun-
ty, because they were trying to learn the City's
intent; if the City is agreeable, they would annex the
property concurrently with the application to the
City; they wanted to get the Agency's direction
tonight as to the development of this property.
Boardmember Drago stated the City's entire pro-
posal is based on the numbers for financing of the
undergrounding of BART and, if the numbers fail to
materialize, he would rather have less density.
Discussion followed: Vice Chairman Yee wondered
if the idea of annexation is to be concurrent with the
Plan; whether there is a sewer available to this site;
they would have to be connected to the sewer trunk
lines; in theory, the builder could develop with the
County if they don't need the sewer; a general plan
amendment would be required, because it is tied to
the agreement with BART; the redevelopment plan
is in place and the increment has started to come in;
if the zoning is not kicking in, then we are not
going to get the money projected; if we do not
approve this plan we will get less; the City was
going to have something like this or zero; it was the
developer's 330 unit plan vs. the 733 unit plan; ten
years from now the increment may not be the same;
it was important to kick in the tax increment by
generating more property tax; sewer capacity
for the build out; the Agency had thrown in a higher
density to pay for the BART undergrounding; the
Nursery should be annexed before this is approved
so we know they are within our City limits, be-
cause, for all we know, BART could always go to a
subway; Boardmember Drago wanted to wait 90
days for the EIR from BART before taking action;
etc.
M/S Penna/Yee - To adjourn the meeting.
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
ADJOURNMENT: Time of adjournment was 8:43 p.m.
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RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, APPROVED.
Barbara A. Battaya, Clerk ~/ Josep'6 A. F~rnekes, Ehair~
Redevelopment Agency Redevelopment
City of South San Francisco City cfi South San Francisco
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communications, arguments and comments are recorded on tape. The tape and documents related to the items are on
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