HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 1991-09-18 Mayor Jack Drago
Council:
Richard A. Haffey
Gus Nicolopulos
John R. Penna
--Roberta Cerri Teglia
AGENDA
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
CALL TO ORDER: (Cassette No. 1)
ROLL CALL:
1. E1Camino Corridor Alternative
BART Site Studies.
MINUTES
City Council
City Council Conference Room
City Hal 1
September 18, 1991
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ACTION TAKEN
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
7:00 p.m. Mayor Drago presiding.
Council present:
Council absent:
Haffey, Nicolopulos,
and Drago.
Penna and Teglia.
Chief Planner Solomon stated that Council
had directed staff several months ago to
develop information to allow it to make
comparisons on two potential sites for
the future BART station at Chestnut and
Mission and at the Hickey Blvd.
Extension. He stated that represen-
tatives were present from Wilsey & Ham,
traffic engineers, and Angus McDonald &
Assoc. with Komar Assoc., economic con-
sultants, to address their findings in
their reports. He spoke briefly of the
economic findings and fiscal impacts of
the two sites.
Mr. Bob Goldman, Angus McDonald & Assoc.,
stated that his firm was the lead in the
economic part of the study which indi-
cated that the economic potential of the
Hickey site was higher to the City on the
Hickey site depending on the City's deve-
lopment policies within the corridor.
Mr. Terry Margerum, Komar Assoc., spoke
of the two locations and their relative
impacts on key property owners.
Mr. Frank Tedesco, Wilsey & Hamm,
addressed the results of the traffic
study.
Discussion followed: if the City would
be jeopardizing an underground station by
moving the station site north; the
problem of getting housing closer to
jobs; eminent domain use by BART for
streets, etc.
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
.... 1. E1Camino Corridor - Continued.
Councilman Penna Arrived:
Councilwoman Teglia Arrived:
Councilman Haffey Left the Podium:
Mr. Jim Keegan, BART Citizens Advisory
Committee, asked questions on accessing
E1Camino by either of the stations.
Discussion followed: on the two stations
configurations in relation to access of
E1Camino Real;
Mr. Lou Dell'Angela, 460 Gardenside Ave.,
stated that the Hickey station would not
infringe on the neighborhoods.
Chief Planner Solomon summarized his pre-
sentation by saying that staff believed
that Hickey was the preferred station
based on the reports submitted tonight.
Councilman Haffey stated that he could
support the Hickey station if there was
assurance that the station would be
underground.
Discussion followed: on alternative
alignments being looked at as requested
by San Bruno; that the Advisory Committee
should further convey this City's request
for an underground station; that alter-
natives had to be proven in value as cost
saving; that the alternate station site
would cost $1,000,000-$9,000,000 which
was a tenth of the cost for the BART
extension, etc.
Councilman Penna arrived at 7:35 p.m.
Councilwoman Teglia arrived at 7:40 p.m.
Councilman Haffey left the meeting at
7:45 p.m.
Discussion followed: that a letter would
be forwarded incorporating Council pre-
ferences; that the Policy Committee will
meet 10/11/91; a draft letter from the
Mayor to MTC for the cities looking for
support.
Mr. Keegan questioned the mission of the
Citizens Advisory Committee and where
they were to get their direction. He
suggested that the Council hold a one
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E1 Camino Corridor - Continued.
Terrabay Development Phasing.~~
item study session with the Committee.
Mayor Drago stated that it was an advi-
sory committee or the checks and balances
to the Council. He stated that there was
a member of the Committee that did not
want BART to go through S.S.F. or so he
had read in the minutes.
Discussion followed: that Samtrans, MTC,
and BART were part of the Policy
Committee; that mixed messages were
coming from Council and the Citizens
Committee; staff was directed to set up a
joint study session with the Committee,
and invite all of the technical people.
Mr. Eugene Terry, Citizens Advisory
Committee, stated that minutes were not
being properly stated for their meetings,
and they had asked that they be tape
recorded and they were refused. He
stated that he had made the comment that
the Mayor made reference to on BART,
however he had not seen anything in the
minutes quoting him.
Discussion followed: that the City had
communicated their desire many times to
have the BART station underground, etc.
Director of Economic & Community
Development Costello stated that the
Developer of Terrabay wanted to be able
to build out the entire residential pro-
ject before doing the commercial phases
of the project. She stated that the
Development Agreement gave the City the
authority to deny that, and direction had
to be given staff on the phasing and the
fiscal impacts.
She stated that the basic question was -
who is going to pay the annual cost to
finance services for the Terrabay
Project, the City or Terrabay.
She proceeded to explain the alternatives
and the three points of direction
requested by staff in the staff report.
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
Terrabay - Continued.
Discussion followed: using the marginal
cost method to evaluate the fiscal
impacts; mechanism for gap financing; a
pubic hearing would be scheduled for
October to take formal action on this
issue; the investment by the Development
to Developer to date in this project;
Vice Mayor Nicolopulos felt that Mr. Dean
deserved a great deal of credit for the
delicate balance that had been achieved
for the South Slope environment during
the ten years, and if the homes had been
built 9 years ago the cost would have
been $100,000 rather than $500,000; that
the first phase of the project included
$17,000,000 in public facilities; that
so far only the playfield and fire sta-
tion had been completed; that there were
two major phases; terms of the
Development Agreement; Vice Mayor
Nicolopulos preferred the average costing
rather than the marginal cost method;
that the marginal cost indicated gap
financing; that the commercial market was
dead and Mr. Dean had a better chance to
find financing for residential; that the
average costing method was saying that
the improvements being made were of bene-
fit to the entire City and that value
should be recognized, i.e., such as the
fire station; that the projected City
figures such as library and police services
were inflated; using Mello-Roos funds;
Mayor Drago and Councilwoman Teglia
favored the marginal cost method but
wanted the figures to be accurate; that
the figures had to be refined; original
projected revenues of the project
included a hotel; setting up an
assessment district to deal with a defi-
cit that would be the obligation of the
individual homeowners; Councilman Penna
felt there should be a third alternative
- that of tying the developer more to the
costs because he benefits immediately
from the sale of the residential units;
he stated that he could support the
marginal approach provided that the
Developer was tied to a commitment that
no profits will be taken; that the market
had not been good for homes for over a
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AGENDA
Terrabay - Continued.
ACTION TAKEN
year and the commercial market was worse,
etc.
Mr. Oschner stated that Mr. Dean had a
problem in that the infrastructure and
the public facilities had been required
by the City in Phase 1, and if Phase 2
never goes he still was fiscally
impacted by costs already incurred
whether the City used the marginal
approach or not. He urged Council to
allow the Developer to go forward with
all of the residential.
Discussion followed: that the public
improvements when completed would become
City facilities; who was to maintain the
storm drains; that usually the City
picks up the maintenance; Hillside
widening; revenue from property tax to
the City, etc.
Mr. Keegan stated that the staff report
says that if the Developer does not do
the Hillside Extension the City will have
to do it, yet without the development
there was no need for the extension. He
stated that there was an agreement years
ago between the County and Mr. Dean for
the extension, and it was in the General
Plan for the County. He stated that the
County had come to the City in 1978 for
approval of the Hillside Extension
because they assumed the City would annex
the land, and had imposed that agreement
on the Developer that he would dedicate
the land and one half of the cost of the
Hillside Blvd. Extension. He stated that
he therefore saw no reason that S.S.F.
would ever have to contribute to the
Extension.
Councilwoman Teglia refutted Mr. Keegan's
comments on the agreement.
Mr. Dell'Angela questioned how Mr. Dean
could get financing if the Council did
not allow him to go ahead with the total
residential portion of the project.
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AGENDA
ACTION TAKEN
Noise Insulation Program
4. Planning Commission Work Program
1991-92.
Be
Closed Session for the purpose of
discussion of personnel matters,
labor relations, property
negotiations and litigation.
RECALL TO ORDER:
ADJOURNMENT:
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Barbara . y ,' City Cli~k
City of South San Francisco
Senior Civil Engineer Wong requested the
Council to review the current policy for
selecting homes to be insulated, and
revise any policies they choose.
Discussion followed on the basic policy
and the defined alternatives and chose to
continue the present policy.
Council chose to accept the Work Program
without discussion.
Council adjourned to a Closed Session at
10:20 p.m. to discuss litigation pursuant
to G.C. Section 54956(a) Judith L. Clegg
v. Loews Corp. Westborough Case No. 1261.
Mayor Drago recalled the meeting to order
at 10:22 p.m., all Council present, no
action was taken.
Mayor Drago stated that the Council would
hold the meeting before Thanksgiving, and
then the Council change-over meeting
would be held at the regular meeting on
11/27/91.
M/S Teglia/Haffey - To adjourn the
meeting.
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
Time of adjournment was 10:23 p.m
APPROVED.
Jack Drago, Mayo~/
j/City of South San Franci
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