HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 1992-01-22Mayor John R. Penna
Council:
Jack Drago
Joseph A. Fernekes
Gus Nicolopulos
~oberta Cerri Teglia
MINUTES
City Council
Municipal Services Building
Community Room
January 22, 1992
002'50
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, pursuant to Section 54956 of the Government Code of the
State of California, that the City Council of the City of South San Francisco will hold a
Special Meeting on Wednesday, the 22th day of January 1992, at 6:45 p.m., in the Municipal
Services Building Community Room, 33 Arroyo Drive, South San Francisco, California.
Purpose of the meeting:
1. Closed Session for the purpose of the discussion of personnel matters, labor
relations, property negotiations and litigation.
Barbara A. Battaya, Cityd~lerk
City of South San Francisco
Dated: January 16, 1992
AGENDA
~ALL TO ORDER: (Cassette No. 1)
ROLL CALL:
Closed Session for the purpose of
the discussion of personnel matters,
labor relations, property nego-
tiations and litigation. ~5~
RECALL TO ORDER:
ACTION TAKEN
7:00 p.m. Mayor Penna presiding.
Council present:
Council Absent:
Drago, Fernekes,
Nicolopulos, Teglia,
and Penna.
None.
Mayor Penna announced that the Council
was adjourning to a Closed Session at
6:51 p.m. and cited the following to be
discussed pursuant to: GC 54956.8, pro-
perty negotiations on Oyster Point
Marina; GC 54956.9(c) proposed litigation
Oyster Point Interchange Right-of-way; GC
54957 modifications of City Manager
contract.
Mayor Penna recalled the meeting to order
at 8:28 p.m., all Council present, no
action was taken and said that the sub-
committee was to meet with the negotiator
to discuss concerns with the right-of-way
acquisition.
M/S Nicolopulos/Fernekes - To adjourn the
meeting.
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ACTION TAKEN 00251
AGENDA
ADJOURNMENT:
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
~attay~k
City of South San FranciSco
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
Time of adjournment was 8:28 p.m.
The entries of this Council meeting show the action taken by the City Council to dispose
of an item. Oral communications, arguments, and comments are recorded on tape. The tape
and documents related to the items are on file in the Office of the City Clerk and are
available for inspection, review and copying.
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Mayor John R. Penna
Council:
Jack Drago
Joseph A. Fernekes
Gus Nicolopulos
"-'~oberta Cerri Teglia
AGENDA
CALL TO ORDER: (Cassette No. 1)
ROLL CALL:
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
AGENDA REVIEW
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
CONSENT CALENDAR
Motion to approve the Minutes of
the Regular Meeting of 1/8/92, and
the Adjourned Regular Meeting of
1/10/92.
2. Motion to cOnfirm expense claims~O~
of 1/22/92.
MINUTES
City Council
Municipal Services Building
Community Room
January 22, 1992
VOL,
252
ACTION TAKEN
7:31 p.m. Mayor Penna presiding.
Council present:
Council absent:
Recited.
AGENDA REVIEW
Drago, Fernekes,
Nicolopulos, Teglia,
and Penna.
None.
City Manager Armas stated that there were
no changes to the Agenda.
He introduced new Fire Chief Andrew Stark
to the Council.
Fire Chief Stark expressed his appre-
ciation for the warm welcome he had
received, and stated he was very proud of
this Fire Department and would work very
hard to carry on the tradition.
Mayor Penna welcomed Mr. Stark to the
City on behalf of the Council and wished
him well.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
No one chose to speak.
COMMUNITY FORUM
No one chose to speak.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Approved.
Approved in the amount of $1,796,726.39.
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
' ~ONSENT CALENDAR
3. Resolution approving an agreement
to provide geotechnical services
for the design of the new corpor-
ation yard.
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A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION
OF AGREEMENT FOR GEOTECHNICAL
SERVICES FOR THE NEW CORPORATION
YARD
Resolution approving an agreement
with the County of San Mateo for
cost sharing of the Environmental
Documents for Hickey Boulevard
Extension.
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION
OF AGREEMENT FOR COST SHARING OF
ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS FOR THE
HICKEY BOULEVARD EXTENSION
Resolution approving an agreement
with Smith, Randlett, Foulk and
Stock, Inc. for engineering design
and surveying, and calling bids for
the Baden Avenue Reconstruction.
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION
OF AGREEMENT FOR ENGINEERING DESIGN
AND SURVEYING FOR THE BADEN AVENUE
RECONSTRUCTION
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Resolution approving an agreement
with Smith, Randlett, Foulk and
Stock, Inc. for engineering design
and surveying, and calling bids for
the Baden Avenue Reconstruction.
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTION
OF AGREEMENT FOR ENGINEERING DESIGN
AND SURVEYING FOR THE BADEN AVENUE
RECONSTRUCTION
CONSENT CALENDAR
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RESOLUTION NO. 4-92
RESOLUTION NO. 5-92
Removed from the Consent Calendar by Vice
Mayor Teglia.
M/S Teglia/Fernekes - To approve the
Consent Calendar with the exception of
Item No. 5.
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
M/S Fernekes/Drago - To adopt the
Resolution.
RESOLUTION NO. 6-92
Carried by majority voice vote, Vice
Mayor Teglia abstained.
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
.~ADMINISTRATIVE BUSINESS
6. Motion to approve submittal of a
letter to the Bart Policy Committee
objecting to the inclusion of an at
grade BART line alternative.
254
ADMINISTRATIVE BUSINESS
Director Economic & Community Development
Costello spoke of a meeting she attended
on the Bart Extension where S.S.F. con-
cerns were raised by MTC staff who were
to ask the Bart Policy Comm. to add an
alternative to the environmental docu-
ments for Bart to be located at grade in
S.S.F. between Mission Rd. and Chestnut
Ave. She stated that all the previous
proposal have been either a retained cut
or below ground, and this would mean a
station, whether it was located at Hickey
or Chestnut, would have to be an over-
pass. She stated that the reason given
for the alternative had been a cost
savings with the staff report going to
the Bart Policy Comm. saying that it
could cost as much as $63,000,000 at
grade rather than a subway.
She stated that the Bart Policy Comm. had
agreed to look at the Hickey location and
their report said that to put a Hickey
station below grade would cost as much as
$11,000,000 more and as much as
$23,000,000 more than the subway solution
for Chestnut Ave.
She stated that she had reiterated to the
Committee the City's letter stating their
priority is for it to be underground, and
that the City would not be willing to
accept an at grade in exchange for
putting in a Hickey Blvd. station.
She stated that the Council was being
asked tonight to reiterate that opposi-
tion to the at grade line alternative, and
spoke in-depth of the impacts of an at
grade Bart line on the area.
Discussion followed: MTC's at grade con-
figuration through S.S.F.; that the line
was underground through Colma; that the
four cities should unite in an effort to
have their voice heard at a Federal
level; that a Chestnut station would down
grade properties; that the cities should
present a case after completion of the
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
--~DMINISTRATIVE BUSINESS
6. Motion - Continued.
LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS
Motion to adopt an ordinance
relating to the power to appoint
City Department Heads.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF
SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO AMENDING
VARIOUS SECTIONS OF TITLE 2 AND
TITLE 3 OF THE SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO
MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO THE
POWER TO APPOINT CITY DEPARTMENT
HEADS
255
ADMINISTRATIVE BUSINESS
EIR; that new Federal monies would be
coming for Bart; Vice Mayor Teglia was
concerned over acting on Item No. 4
before Bart was completed; that Item No.
4 was only for preparation of an EIR, and
was only to enable the County to reim-
burse the City; Vice Mayor Teglia felt
there should be stronger representation
than staff, such as a couple of
Councilmembers; Councilman Nicolopulos
volunteered to go to the Bart meeting as
a representative of the Council.
M/S Drago/Teglia - To approve submittal
of a letter to the Bart Policy Committee
objecting to the inclusion of an at-grade
Bart line alternative.
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS
Mr. Lou Dell'Angela, 460 Gardenside Ave.,
stated that he supported the ordinance
and felt it was long overdue. He stated
that he had worked for the City as a
department head from 1979-1984 under Mr.
Birkelo when the department heads were
appointed by the Council, and he felt it
was a very open situation; and the City
Manager balanced the personalities and
made things happen; so we didn't have, as
was described, a disastrous big political
situation.
He stated that as a consultant coming to
City Hall to solve problems his clients
had, one went from the rank and file, up
through the division heads and department
heads, to the City Manager without
anything being solved. He stated that
department heads were important and should
be problem solvers because if they were
not the Council would hear about it. He
stated that it was extremely critical
that the department heads were open with
the public, solved problems, and that
they were appointed by Council.
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
_EGISLATIVE BUSINESS
7. Motion - Continued.
256
LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS
He felt the present City Manager was
apparently looking for passive persons
who were not outspoken and went along
with the situation, however, the Council
might want someone open, independent, and
was a good communications type of person.
He felt that when a person was making
$100,000 with salary and benefits they
should appoint them and have them work
with the Council rather than delegate
that authority.
He stated that the City had a good
experience with Mr. Birkelo in hiring the
City Manager with a lot of progress made,
and now they had a major upheaval with
many problems with department heads being
quite intimidated by the process and
would not talk on a variety of issues
facing the City. He felt that the pre-
sent structure gave too much power to one
man - the City Manager.
He felt that by the Council appointing
department heads there were checks and
balances, more sensitivity to the public,
more problem solving, less bureaucratic
red tape, and less politics because the
department was not under the domination
of one person.
Mr. Paul Tognetti, 845 Olive Ave., stated
that he was a retired Fire Captain and a
former Police Officer, was not running
for City Council, and his speech was not
that he would have added power if elected
to the Council. He spoke of the old days
philosophy that if you were not born and
raised here, you were an outsider, and
there was family protection. He stated
that he had spoken to many people in the
community and most seniors felt that if
it ain't broke, don't fix it.
He stated that this system had come about
from much suffering of people being
appointed in restaurants, and other cities
thinking this City was run by the Mafia.
He thought this system was good, pro-
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
..... SEGISLATIVE BUSINESS
7. Motion - Continued.
257
LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS
fessionals were hired to conduct tests,
and politics were kept out of it. He
stated that now there was talk of firing
the City Manager which he thought was a
nice guy, even though he didn't always
agree with him, but he knew why we had
the present City Manager form of govern-
ment today. He stated that 40 years ago
there were emotions, favoritism, free
loaves of bread to get a vote, and so on.
He felt that a 4-1 vote was a safeguard
so one Councilmember would not get
carried away, and the City Manager could
always be fired if he wasn't doing a good
job.
Councilman Nicolopulos stated that he had
listened to four hours of testimony in
Closed Session and the Council would
accomplish what Mr. Tognetti had asked,
but asked that Mr. Tognetti trust the
Council decision making. He questioned
how much evidence Mr. Tognetti had
acquired on this case, because as a
policeman a judge had told him to not
come before him with allegations.
Mr. Mark Addiego, 329 Evergreen Dr.,
stated that as a former Councilmember who
had not lived in the City as long as Mr.
Tognetti - he remembered a different system
of government. He stated that in
listening to Mr. Dell'Angela had noted
that he was a victim of the system five
or six years ago which was not good poli-
tics, and there was a level of discomfort
and anguish expressed. He stated that at
the last meeting in watching the Council
conduct itself, it had not been good
politics - not good government.
He wanted to talk about the philosophy of
City Manager form of government, and
stated that the City Manager was very
basic and was trying to surround himself
with the best talent possible. He con-
tinued, he looked for that star - that
cut above, not unlike what the Council
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
~_EGISLATIVE BUSINESS
7. Motion - Continued.
258
LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS
would do, which creates success in having
the best subordinates.
He stated that when he was part of the
system there were five bosses who
selected department heads and it was
unwieldy, and perhaps one Councilperson
had an interest in a particular depart-
ment and would exercise an undue amount
of influence, and he felt that was not a
healthy balance.
He remembered being a part of the Council
when a head hunter was hired because the
City was having difficulty in recruiting
because of the City's reputation. He
stated that Mr. Haffey had argued hard
and long because he knew how important
reputation was to professional people.
He noted that a lot of new recruits came
from Southern California and felt it was
because those cities Councils were not as
intimately involved with instances such
as occurred at the last meeting.
He quoted Adlai Stevenson, "Good govern-
ment, honest government could not exist
side by side with bad politics. The best
government is the best politics." He
stated that the last Council meeting was
bad politics, and urged the Council to
reverse the course begun at the last
meeting.
Councilman Nicolopulos stated that he had
known and loved Mark's mother and grand-
father, and spoke of how well respected
his grandfather had been in the
community.
He stated that he had always respected
Mark and asked the same courtesy to con-
sider that he had listened to four hours
of testimony, and wanted Mark to believe
that he had made his best decision.
Mr. Addiego stated that he was not here
to challenge the testimony or the
background information received by
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
'--I_EGISLATIVE BUSINESS
7. Motion - Continued.
259
LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS
Council, but to share a philosophy.
Councilman Nicolopulos stated that he had
served for 10 years on the ABAG Board as
a representative for Air Quality, and
spoke of the collective talent that was
going to make transportation gridlock and
ferry boats happen.
Councilman Drago stated that he was
starting to feel like a whistle blower.
He stated that people were talking about
a 4-1, but that had only come into the
picture in the last 11 months. He stated
that this call for action tonight would
have never taken place if the process had
been followed - that was the issue
tonight, not the individuals. He quoted
Senator Kopp when he was speaking about
the Bart cars, "This thing has been
twisted and perverted both in process and
results."
He stated that he would go over some of
the points because there had been so much
personalities and issues raised that we
have gotten away from the original
problem: the City Manager's contract
called for an executive session to be
held with department head appointments;
he failed to do this and the rest
followed; State law prohibits certain
actions to protect the public; these pro-
hibited actions did occur during polling
of the Council and the actions taken on
their results; specifications for Fire
Chief called for a degree of a BA and a
minimum of an AA; attempts were made to
change this a month ago before the test,
but it failed because of the Personnel
Board; he had attended a Personnel Board
meeting last night and had listened to
their comments about what occurred, yet
applications were received from candidates
that do not possess the minimum qualifi-
cation and these turned out to be the top
finishers; the City Manager's own policy
of interviewing three candidates for
every position was not followed - he only
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
ZEGISLATIVE BUSINESS
7. Motion - Continued.
260
LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS
interviewed two, the third person was an
in-house candidate; the process was the
issue - not the innuendos.
He stated that he had no other opportunity
to bring this issue forward because there
was no executive session to voice these
concerns. He stated that he was elected
to govern this City, yet he could not get
involved with the 10 most critical posi-
tions in the City - he was on the outside
looking in and could not get anyone's
attention. He stated that he didn't
break the rules, he was trying to bring
out that this system does not work. He
stated that when you put the power in the
hands of one man it is known that that is
subject to abuse, and he would rather put
his faith in people that are making
policy decisions - the hands of five
people.
He stated that he had received many let-
ters from members of the community in
support of the Council running the City -
not the City Manager. He stated that it
was a fact that the Council appointed the
City Manager, so why let him run them.
He stated that one letter was from a
former judge who was concerned over a
deviation from an agreed upon procedure
in a personnel matter. He stated that he
too had faith in five people, no matter
how much they disagree, rather than one
person who has lived here less than three
years. He proceeded to state concerns
voiced in the various letters.
He stated that this ordinance was not
changing the City Manager form of govern-
ment, but was only giving back the power
to hire and fire department heads to the
Council.
Vice Mayor Teglia stated that her con-
tacts in the City were very concerned
that because of a particular incident -
the Council tended to throw out the
entire system and go backwards in time.
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
261
--.EGISLATIVE BUSINESS
7. Motion - Continued.
LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS
She stated that we do have a system, a
City Manager form of government, that was
intended to have checks and balances; was
intended to have a proper professional
administration of the City, and to keep
the political element from meddling into
the internal affairs of the day to day
running of the City.
She stated that they had heard from a
gentleman who had problems getting
through the staff, but perhaps what he
and his clients were asking for is
something from time to time that is
perhaps contrary to the direction of
Council; and professional staff is not
going to wheel and deal. She stated that
if there is going to be a change it had
to come back to Council and would be in
the open so people would know.
She stated that this system had worked
very well to pick out a City Engineer, a
City Librarian, Recreation Director, and
Economic & Community Development
Director. She stated that on reflection
she could not agree that the City Manager
failed to call an Executive Session, and
thought that the Council got in the way
there. She stated that at one of their
meetings there was enough blame to go
around for every single one of them
because every single one of them could
have been more responsible than they
were. She stated that the Closed Session
could have been called by any one of
them, and cited numerous reasons for not
calling one, but related that the Manager
did attempt to call it, and from there
flowed many things.
She stated that she and Joe, as a subcom-
mittee, had met with the City Manager to
try and see if they could sort out all of
the concerns, all the things that went
wrong in this particular process that Joe
would outline. She proceeded to read
from sections of the ordinance dealing
with the powers and duties of the City
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
.EGISLATIVE BUSINESS
7. Motion - Continued.
LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS
Manager that she felt took the politics
out of that process, and elaborated on
the i. mbalance between the political and
the professionals.
She cited concerns her concerns over the
ordinance being changed: that pro-
fessionals currently employed would move
on rather than deal with five
Councilmembers; that the City would move
back to a very politically charged cli-
mate that the public would not see it but
one day it would raise its ugly head.
She felt that the Council should deal
with every appointment individually
without changing the ordinance, and
urged them to seriously take a step back.
She related an incident some years back
when the City was run by the City Council
when we had a leachate problem in the
marina and being hit by Water Quality and
other people because of the garbage being
dumped in the bay. She continued, people
had wondered why the professional staff
had allowed this to happen and we did
have engineers who told the Council that
it was improper fill, and they were basi-
cally told to mind their own business,
and years later the City was libel for
lots of money, lots of problems which
hopefully today were corrected. She
stated that it was a choice of politi-
cizing the administration of this City or
having it done professionally. She
urged the Council to not adopt the ordi-
nance and work in another direction.
Councilman Nicolopulos felt that one of
the greatest causes of troubles in orga-
nizations was misunderstanding, and felt
that we should not attack anyone per-
sonally, only argue about the issues; we
should not stress to defeat and humiliate
the opponent; strive to win his
friendship, because you should remember
that your opponent on one issue may be
your strongest ally on another.
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN 263
~LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS
7. Motion - Continued.
LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS
Councilman Fernekes stated that in
reference to the subcommittee that was
established two weeks ago, they had sat
down with the City Manager to see if they
could come to some type of mutual
agreement, somewhere in the middle, to
see if we can continue on and have a fair
process and get the best candidates
available as department heads. He pro-
ceeded to give the outline of the subcom-
mittee report: they had looked at the
meeting of January 15th, where there
were some major concerns addressed, and
some concerns were not acceptable because
of the form of the agreement; in the
revised agreement the City Manager should
continue to interview Councilmembers to
identify desirable qualities and skills
in the affected department head position;
from this a composite of the Council com-
ments will be prepared and shared with
the Council along with the periodic staff
report so the Council will have some
input in the beginning phase of the pro-
cess; once a finalized list has been
selected, the Council will have the
opportunity to meet this individual and
will be able to ask questions of the can-
didate; the Council will meet in closed
session and discuss the qualifications
and the procedures that were followed,
and at that time the Council would render
their veto if it was not acceptable; to
avoid any future misunderstanding and
make the closed session mandatory - and a
job offer can not be made until such a
session has occurred; so there is no room
for modification, no waiving of a closed
session; the most substantive modifica-
tion is to permit an appointment to be
rejected based on a simple majority vote
rather than a 4/5 standard that is now in
effect; while confirmation of the
appointment is not required, the Council
by a simple majority vote may express
objections to this appointment - in which
case the appointment shall not be ini-
tiated by the City Manager; the basis of
the objection shall be limited to job
performance and indications that the
finalist lacks skills and abilities
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
.... _EGISLATIVE BUSINESS
7. Motion - Continued.
264
LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS
necessary to'perform the duties of the
position.
Vice Mayor Teglia stated that it was
hoped by the Subcommittee that this could
be a sufficient step to avoid having to
vote on the actual adoption of the ordi-
nance. She continued, if the Council
felt this was acceptable and we would not
vote on the ordinance, and agendize this
for adoption at a later meeting. She
stated that in meeting with City Manager
it was important to note that this was
a unilateral, not a bilateral - the
Manager agreed to this. She stated that
if the Council was not going to seriously
entertain this amendment to his employ-
ment agreement, and is fixed on moving
forward to strip the Manager of his
authority to hire and fire department
heads and place that in the hands of the
City Council -- because all the implica-
tions of that - she would hope that the
Council will consider that there is no
emergency - no department to fill, no
resignation or retirement in the next few
months. She hoped that the Council would
consider getting some sort of direction
from the community at large before it
moves on this.
She stated that she would hope to put it
on the ballot and letting the community
express their opinion on having the
Council involved in the hiring and firing
of the employees and maybe the City has
turned its back on that.
Mayor Penna stated that this was a dif-
ficult issue - you can see both sides of
the issue clearly, but its politics that
it comes down to, and we look for a
system that may be perfect, but it is
not a perfect system at all. He stated
that it was called a science, but science
has a lot of experimentation that takes
place before you get a final result,
before things change - that's politics.
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN 265
~'--~.EGISLATIVE BUSINESS
7. Motion - Continued.
LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS
He commented on the statement, "If it's
not broke, don't fix it", but he stated
that it was broke and needed to be fixed,
that was why the ordinance was on the
agenda tonight. He stated that he had
heard the comments: that we are going to
be playing the old political games of
deciding in the local coffee shops or
pubs on a department head; or who is
going to come to work or how the City is
going to be run; or are we going through
a professional approach which is an
assessment center approach - they are
both the same.
He stated that the assessment center
approach used this time was simply an
orchestrated approach to try to appoint
someone in a professional way. He stated
that the assessment center was put
together by the City Manager, there were
four people: one was a local employee of
the City, a City Manager out of one of
the cities on the peninsula that the City
Manager knows well, and also two Fire
Chiefs. He stated that the assessment
center did not consist of any examina-
tion, but was an interview process where
individuals were able to talk about their
experiences, and a grading system was
made by the individual assessors. He
reiterated that it was not a test, that
it was on how someone was able to com-
municate to those four people how they
felt about this particular job. He
stated that the Council was able to see
the results of that assessment center,
the final vote, but did not see the indi-
vidual tally of each assessor even though
they were asked for - the City Manager
refused to give us those results. He
felt that was important because when you
have assessors known to the Manager, then
he is able to orchestrate this. He
questioned what the difference was in the
system between having someone you meet at
the local coffee shop and decide they are
going to be in that position, or you do
it through a profession - or what is
called a professional way because it has
the same markings on it.
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
"'_EGISLATIVE BUSINESS
7. Motion - Continued.
266
LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS
He stated that someone had said it was a
smoke screen tonight, and replied that it
was and did not think it was fair. He
stated that the other question that came
up was should the Council's philosophy
prevail or should the City Manager's phi-
losophy prevail. He felt that the
Council's philosophy should prevail
because they are the people that are
elected by the community to represent
them and run the City through the consen-
sus of Council. He stated that the
problem is not with the Council fighting
amongst itself, but that Council is faced
with how this City Manager is running
this City, and how he is not taking, at
least the feeling of some Councilmembers,
is not taking direction from this
Council.
He stated that someone had said that the
Council did not look good at the last
meeting, and he agreed - and felt that
was probably true tonight because we are
going through a very difficult period
here; and because it was a public forum
and was televised for everyone to view;
and felt this was a process the Council
needed to follow in order for the public
to understand what the Council was going
through because up to now it had been
one sided and this brought it all out.
He stated that someone had said that five
bosses were four too many - and he
agreed the City Manager should have the
authority to hire and fire, but direction
should be taken from the Council. He
stated that the contract given to this
City Manager specifically says that the
City Manager agrees to interview each
Councilmember to ascertain his or her
views on desirable qualifications for a
vacant position. He stated that the City
Manager did meet with the Council and ask
each one for their opinions - just once.
He stated that he was disturbed to find
out at the last meeting when the Fireman
got up and gave his speech that the City
Manager was down at the fire house for
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the past year having coffee with the boys
to ascertain what their needs and wants
were - shere was he with us, and felt
betrayed on that.
He stated that the Manager's contract
read that prior to tendering an offer of
employment to an individual the City
Manager plans to appoint to the position
the City Manager agrees to share with the
Council in executive session information
relative to that individual's qualifica-
tions for the position. He continued,
while confirmation of the appointment is
not required the Council by a 4/5 vote
may express its objections, disappoint-
ments - in which case the appointment
shall not be initiated by the City
Manager. He stated that the executive
session never took place.
He stated that it was said, and correctly
so, that the Manager said he was planning
to make an appointment prior to Christmas
or thereabouts at the 12/11/91 meeting,
and asked if Council wanted him to have
another executive session on his appoint-
ment or have him pass the resume amongst
the Council and have them get back to the
Manager if there were any objections. He
stated that there was opposition and con-
cerns were voiced, but it was mistreated
and in his opinion if the executive
session had taken place, because the
Manager knew there was a problem, those
concerns could have been voiced - maybe
the results would have ended up the same
way. He stated that the process was not
followed, which is part of the Manager's
agreement, and he also felt that the
Manager did not have the right under the
contract to waive the executive session.
He stated that the new contract that was
referred to tries to correct that, and he
did not think it did and make the
situation worse. He stated that the new
contract as outlined by the Subcommittee
says the Council will be provided with a
copy of the individual's resume or job
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application - yet the Council was pro-
vided with a copy of this individual's
resume which was a summary type of resume
that did not speak to how they performed
in their job - only about the kind of
jobs they did. He stated that it said
that the City Manager will schedule a
mutually convenient time for the Council
to meet with the finalist - which he felt
would be a good thing because the Council
could communicate with these individuals.
He continued, but the problem with the
process again is how do those individuals
get to be finalists when in this case
there were eight finalists, but this did
not indicate which finalists. He
stated that it says, a mandatory execu-
tive session shall be convened imme-
diately following this meeting to enable
the Council to discuss with the City
Manager questions or concerns about the
finalists. He felt that the word man-
datory was redundant when already says
that an executive session would be held.
He stated that the next paragraph that
follows says, an offer of employment
shall not be tendered by the City Manager
until an executive session has been held,
and they are contradictory statements
because there is no time period. He
questioned if that meant a second, a
minute, an hour, a day, a month, a year -
and felt that was the problem all the way
through the contract, there were no time
periods. He questioned the clause
dealing with the basis of the objection
being limited to job performance or indi-
cations that the finalist lacks skills
and abilities necessary to perform the
duties of the position. He stated that
now we are getting into a situation where
we have to have some very solid specifics
in order to object to the individual
which the prior contract did not provide,
it just said you have to voice a concern.
He stated that the most important reason
was absent, and that was the educational
requirements that the Personnel Board had
already placed on the requirement list.
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He stated that comments were made about
good government vs. bad government, and
he felt that government was as good as we
want it to be or as bad as we want to
make it to be. He continued, you have to
have faith and confidence in your public
officers because when these types of
screw ups occur there is no place for us
to go as public officials, no one we can
appeal to and we have to make our deci-
sions and abide by them. He stated that
there was a problem and the Council was
looking at a process to set up that can
be followed, so we don't have these
foul ups, so we do try to get the best
people we can possibly get.
He stated that it was mentioned here that
we may be meddling with the day-to-day
operations which he did not believe was
so, and felt that the Manager should not
have superior power over anyone.
He stated that he felt that the only way
to really correct the situation tonight
was to pass this ordinance and then deal
with the technicalities that may be
involved to correct the process. He
stated that it was a way for the Council
to say they did not like what had hap-
pened here, they had been misguided,
misjudged, there were misunderstandings,
but we are going to take back the power
to hire department heads until we come to
a position where we can work out our
differences and effect a policy. He
stated that it was better to take back
the power now rather than try to do it at
a later date when there is an appoint-
ment, and there is a lot of politics that
can get involved with the appointment.
Councilman Drago stated that there
appeared to be general concerns over the
way the ordinance is going to be applied
- there appeared to be fears there,
however, if the ordinance is passed it
would not take effect for 30 days. He
stated that during that time, with Council
permission, he would like to take part
with Councilman Fernekes to put together
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a process that was fair and equitable to
everyone to alleviate some of those fears
about meddling and see what happens.
He stated that he had expressed his
reasons on why he opposed the proposal to
change the agreement because he did not
feel it was a significant change to the
existing one, and did have a problem with
being limited to only concerns on job
performance which you could not tell
until they started performing.
Councilman Nicolopulos commented on
Mark's Mother being an asset to this com-
munity, and also noted the Penna family's
contributions to the community in addi-
tion to those given to his father in his
laundry business.
Vice Mayor Teglia stated that her Father
had worked for and loved the City, and
had heard the not so wonderful side - the
politics, and there were fears from the
employees at that time about the hiring
that took place and about a lot of
unfairness existing. She continued, and
how political the town was, and suspected
it was part of what made her want to make
some changes in that there were things
not beautiful, not wonderful, and not
right, and we have come a long way and
she did not want to see us go back and
be counter productive.
City Manager Armas stated that he took
considerable pride in having taken time
over many years to develop the technical
competence, the professional skills and
sensitivity to deal with different
situations. He stated that he had taken
pride in that because he had chosen to
work in the public section and had a lot
of faith in local government, and it is
most responsive to the public's needs.
He stated that that was probably amph-
lified in S.S.F. in the community of TV
where the public can stay home and keep
in touch with government.
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He stated that it was clear to him that
we could have done some things better,
and it was also clear to him that we all
have taken great comfort in the 20/20
hindsight that time presents us with.
He stated that there were a couple of
things stated, most particularly by the
Mayor, that he needed to speak to mostly
because he had a lot of pride in his pro-
fessional commitment, and obligations
not only to the Council but to local
government and the others that will
succeed him.
He stated that he took considerable
exception to the notion that this was an
orchestrated process - what that really
means is that there is an accusation that
he rigged the outcome. He stated that
that was far from the truth - there were
two Fire Chiefs that served on that panel
that he had never met before that came
from larger cities. He stated that he
had heard of them from others relative to
their professional competence and that
they ran well departments and were
respected by fire officials. He stated
that the testing process that was used
was not typical of so many others that
are used in government where they consist
of one hour interviews, instead it was an
all day evaluation where we took various
areas and covered as best we could the
candidates ability to handle a situation
- that was intentional, one can be snowed
very easily in an hour setting, and it
was much more difficult when one has to
respond throughout a day when the guard
slips - stress comes into play. He con-
tinued, the personnel supervision and
labor relations, and holding people
accountable for performance, and a fire
incident and how the individual would
respond. He stated that it was far from
a very lighthearted exercise and there
was a critique of that process - a
critique of that candidate. He stated
that they learned the strengths of some
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and the weakness of others. He stated
that he was not involved in the ranking
of the candidates, but had observed their
performance for his own information.
He stated that he had commented about
pride of the profession and one aspect of
that is to respond to Council concerns,
and the majority of them have worked with
me, and he had worked for them for over
three years. He did not believe that the
Council could point to instances where he
had disregarded Council direction, and
had made his case to the Council some-
times in a public session and privately
on appropriate topics in closed session,
and his implementation of that was not
different than Council direction.
He stated that some criticism was made of
the agreement and he thought the
reference to the votes and the earlier
version was to talk about safeguards and
the checks and balances with the Council
making the ultimate decision.
He stated that the Council had also
recruited for the Manager under a set of
circumstances much as when you purchase a
home, and there would be a mortgage with
a fixed term, and in times of inflation
the banks do not have the right to unila-
terally change that rate - there are such
things as obligations and there are such
things as principles. He stated that he
tried to conduct himself with principles
in mind, there may be differences of
opinion and he may not be the best person
for this City, but he would stress as
often as he could that his obligation was
to fulfill his professional duties what-
ever the Council decision, it will be
his responsibility to carry that out con-
sistent with the responsibilities that
Council has entered into.
He stated that he felt that this organi-
zation has suffered enough and he was
going to do his best to present as posi-
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tive and provide as broad and construc-
tive a face as he could, and the Council
would not see anything different from
him.
Ms. Shirley Hoch, Wexford Ave., stated
that Councilman Nicolopulos did not know
her grandparents as they were in Europe
saving money to come over, but she too
loved S.S.F. and was willing to serve in
any way to make this City better. She
felt that the last two weeks had been
terrible for this City, and had divided
the citizens at a time when S.S.F. needs
to move forward. She stated that there
was one side siding with Councilman
Drago, and one side saying we have to
move forward or they side with Vice Mayor
Teglia. She felt that was not fair
because it was not a Jack or Roberta
issue, but an issue dealing with a
contract with the City Manager when it
came up which she felt should not be
taken up right now when there are so many
more important issues to be dealt with.
She stated that Councilman Nicolopulos
and the Council may have heard four hours
of testimony, but the citizens feel there
could be legal or financial ramifications
if the Council passes this ordinance.
She questioned what would happen if the
Council violated this contract with the
City Manager.
City Attorney O'Toole stated that the
ramifications of the Council's actions
have been discussed in great length in
executive session, and he thought each of
the Councilmembers were aware of the
potential that exists as a result of the
action they are about to take. He
stated that it was a matter that he had
advised the Council is appropriate for
executive session, and he did not feel
it was something the Council should
discuss at this point in time.
Ms. Hoch commented, so there is a possi-
bility that there could be a financial
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burden on this community.
Mayor Penna stated that that was Ms.
Hoch's conclusion, not anyone else's.
Ms. Hoch stated that someone had men-
tioned that they were upset because Mr.
Armas had been out to the fire station
having coffee with the employees, and she
saluted him for finding the time to meet
with the employees and taking their opi-
nions. She felt that was admirable and
he should not be chastised for there is a
joke going around the community that they
want to offer a cartoon to the newspapers
rather than the typical ad for employ-
ment that you put "only friends, rela-
tives, and political contributors need
apply."
She felt that by passing the ordinance
the Council was putting politics back
into all your appointments - something
she did not want to see the City do as a
relatively newcomer who had only been
here 18 years. She stated that it took a
lot of extra hard work to be accepted in
a community when it goes back so far, and
there were certain things in life we can
not change: we can not change catastro-
phies; we can't do anything on the way
the State or County funds us, but we can
not do anything if we are not working
together. She spoke of compromise, and
congratulated Councilman Fernekes on the
newspaper article that spoke of his
working on a compromise and hoped that
the Council would take a look at that,
maybe not vote on this tonight, and look
at a compromise.
Councilman Nicolopulos stated that Ms.
Hoch was new member here and had a dif-
ficult role with the School Board, but a
wonderful role. He stated that he had
met someone for the first time in the
Kiwanis who was doing a wonderful job in
the School District and the man had been
in the community since 1959, and he was
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sorry he had not met him before.
Fire Fighter Ray Green stated that the
Council had talked about being
responsible to the citizens, and you
wanted to have more say in the hiring of
department heads, because when a depart-
ment head messes up - the Council was
responsible to the citizens. He stated
that the other side to that is that the
Council wanted someone who is a profess-
ional - you hire someone, say in charge
of Finance, you want that person to be a
professional and do the job. He stated
that if Molari and Curly become members
of the Council, this person then has to
align himself to them to survive - he is
no longer a professional, and becomes a
survivalist if he wants to keep his job
and has to go along with the majority of
the people.
He stated that the Council had a compro-
mise before it, there were two members of
a subcommittee that has come up with some
suggestions. He stated that the Mayor
had said that he did not have the time to
interview some of the people, and
suggested that the Manager make the
recommendations after going through the
procedure as he does now, and present
the candidates to the Council. He stated
that Council could then in the final
interviews ask questions of the can-
didates if they have a concern; they can
present that to the candidate; the City
Manager would then make his recommen-
dation, and three members - a majority
of the Council could then override the
City Manager's selection. He stated that
gives the Council the power they seem to
want. He felt that compromise would
work out both ways, and the Council
should listen to the Subcommittee. He
stated that the Manager does the back-
ground check, presents the candidates
to Council, and they would be involved
in the final selection; and if there
was a concern you could ask questions
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of the candidates; and then a simple
majority can override the City Manager's
recommendation. He stated that speaking
as a Fire Fighter, whatever action the
Council took tonight he just prayed that
it was not retroactive. He stated that
they have the best candidate now for the
position of Fire Chief - please let him
do his job, and together go forward for
the citizens of S.S.F.
He stated that they had two great guys in
house, Ron Sciandri and Russ Lee, they
are well respected by the Fire
Department, but at this time, and he was
speaking for the majority of fire
fighters, that the Chief we have now -
let him do his job and let us get behind
him and go forward and keep providing the
best service to the citizens.
Mayor Penna stated that the Council was
voting on the ordinance, if the ordinance
passes the conversation about a subcom-
mittee would be appropriate and is
established if the ordinance passes.
He stated that if the ordinance passes,
no one should be thinking that it means
that anyone's job in this City is jeopar-
dized - no job shall be jeopardized by
this ordinance.
Councilman Drago stated that that should
be made clear, but as Mr. Green said "it
does not say that." He stated that it
said, we will be given the finalist the
City Manager selected, and can only
object on certain ground.
Mr. Jake Jones urged the Council to adopt
the ordinance because the people voted
for you to run the City.
He stated that he had sat on some of
these assessment boards since Mr. Armas
has been Manager, and on one we had a
local person that was top on the list,
but we had to talk like heck to get
him appointed to the Director's job. He
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questioned how many people had been hired
that were qualified for the job and live
in S,S.F. He questioned why the Manager
did not want to hire local people, and
only wanted to hire people from out of
town.
Councilman Fernekes stated that the
Subcommittee report was not on the
agenda, and could not be acted upon
tonight. He stated that the only way we
can find out concurrence is if we ask
that the ordinance be put on hold so this
can be agendized, so at this time he
would make the motion to put it on hold.
City Attorney O'Toole stated that he
believed the appropriate motion would be
to continue the vote on the ordinance to
a date in the future so that this item
could be put on the agenda for a date
certain.
M/S Fernekes/Teglia - To continue the
vote on the ordinance to the next meeting
so this item can be put on the agenda.
Motion and Second failed by majority roll
call vote, Councilmembers Fernekes and
Teglia voted yes.
M/S Drago/Nicolopulos - To adopt the
Ordinance.
ORDINANCE NO. 1110-92
Councilman Fernekes stated the purpose
of the Subcommittee was to try to find a
middle ground at ~east until the end of
the contract. He agreed that there
needed to be modifications to the way we
select our department heads. He found
some faults, and had done his best on the
modifications to meet the concerns
expressed at the last Council meeting,
and there were others to be addressed.
He felt the Council needed a clean pro-
cess and a fair process to get the best
for the City. He stated that he did not
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want politics involved in any selection
process because he had been in a process
where it was both, where they were in on
the selection process, and there were no
politics involved and the School Board
did the confirmation after seeing the top
candidates. He stated that he did want
more involvement in the process, and
modifications had been made to that end
with a simple majority vote.
He felt it was important to have a simple
consensus, and the report allows the
Council to view at least the top can-
didates and sit and discuss that with the
City Manager.
He stated that he was not pleased with
the last process and the misunder-
standings, and he would work hard with
the ordinance to make sure it is success-
ful, was clean, was best for the City,
and kept the politics out.
Carried by majority roll call vote, Vice
Mayor Teglia voted no.
Vice Mayor Teglia stated that for all of
those people in this community that are
seriously disturbed by what has taken
place on where we are going, and if they
care to make that expression she would
like to know it. She stated that there
were a number of people that have antici-
pated that, and would like to conduct a
referendum drive - we will be starting
that in the morning and have 30 days to
get the signatures. She stated that
those people in the community that would
like to be part of this - she would like
to know and was available through City
Hall and her number was in the book.
Mayor Penna stated that he would also
like to hear from people in the community
on the other side of it, because it would
help him in decisions to be made.
Councilman Drago reiterated wanting to
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7. Motion - Continued.
0
Motion to waive read and introduce ~/0~
an ordinance establishing the for-
mation of a Conference Center
Authority.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO ADDING
CHAPTER 2.78 TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE
ESTABLISHING THE SOUTH SAN
FRANCISCO CONFERENCE CENTER
AUTHORITY AND GRANTING AUTHORITY
FOR THE PROMOTION, OPERATION,
MAINTENANCE AND MANAGEMENT OF THE
SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO CONFERENCE
CENTER
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work with Councilman Fernekes on setting
up the procedure and process. He thought
the public would be pleased with the pro-
cess - contrary to the snow job being
handed out.
City Clerk Battaya read the title of the
ordinance in its entirety.
Director of Conference Center Carl stated
that the ordinance was designed as an
effective mechanism to manage and operate
the Conference Center, and that the
following revisions directed by Council
were incorporated into the ordinance:
membership; language regarding membership
appointments and confirmation by the
Mayor and City Council; and transfer of
funds limits between major budget cate-
gories.
She stated that the Board had requested
that the three existing Boardmembers be
appointed to the Authority other than the
two members that have contractual obliga-
tions. She stated that they were con-
cerned with the change in the transfer of
funds to $5,000 but will operate under
those guidelines for six months, and
would report back on its effects.
Councilman Drago questioned what control
the Council was giving up in adopting
this ordinance.
M/S Teglia/Fernekes - To waive reading of
the ordinance.
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
M/S Teglia/Fernekes - To introduce the
ordinance.
Carried by majority roll call vote,
Councilman Nicolopulos voted no, and
Councilman Drago abstained.
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9. Oral Committee reports.
GOOD AND WELFARE
CLOSED SESSION
10.
Closed session for the purpose of
discussion of personnel matters,
labor relations, property nego-
tiations and litigation.
__RECALL TO ORDER:
ADJOURNMENT
ITEMS FROM COUNCIL
Vice Mayor Teglia reported: that a
detox drop off center would be set up in
Northern County; that a Subcommittee
would be set up for local awareness of
the Visitors & Convention Bureau; that
Art Rise was asked to vacate E1 Rancho
School after January, and they were
looking to a fund raiser, a permanent
home, and using Orange Park for a theatre
in the park.
GOOD AND WELFARE
No one chose to speak.
CLOSED SESSION
Council adjourned to a Closed Session at
11:06 p.m. to discuss potential litiga-
tion and the items noticed.
Mayor Penna recalled the meeting to order
at 11:17 p.m., all Council present, no
action was taken.
M/S Teglia/Fernekes - To adjourn the
meeting.
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
Time of adjournment was 11:17 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
~ttaya, City~C k
City of South San Francisco
hn.APPROv[D' ~ --_
Pl~Qna, M~r- ~
City of ~nUth San Francisco
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