HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 1992-08-19 Mayor John R. Penna
Council:
Jack Drago
Joseph A. Fernekes
Roberta Cerri Teglia
--~,obert Yee
AGENDA
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
CALL TO ORDER: (Cassette No. 1)
ROLL CALL:
Discussion and direction on Council
priorities on the 1992-1993 ~/~
Operating Budget.
MINUTES
City Council
City Council Conference Room
City Hal 1
August 19, 1992
ACTION TAKEN
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
7:13 p.m. Mayor Penna presiding.
Council present:
Council absent:
Drago, Fernekes, Yee,
Teglia, and Penna.
None.
City Manager Armas stated that the intent
of the meeting was for Council to con-
tinue the discussion on providing direc-
tion on cutting services or other
reductions that staff should look at so
that once there was clarity with respect
to State actions staff could come back
with material for Council to consider.
He stated that the chart identifying the
3%, 4% and 5% figures was not intended
to impose those or recommend all of
those within each of the columns but
only to indicate dollar values within
each of the departments, etc.
He spoke of the fax received Monday from
the League with respect to the Governor's
budget proposal of cuts of $200 million
to cities and $100 million to
Redevelopment Agencies, as well as addi-
tional cuts to other entities. He stated
that he had heard on the radio today that
that Bill was defeated in the Assembly,
and Speaker Brown had been quoted as
saying that he expects the proposal by
Hill and Eisenberg to be defeated by the
Assembly and would then come forward with
his own compromise.
Councilman Yee stated that he did not
have any items to cut or not cut, and
felt that type of discussion should be
reserved for Council, either as a whole
or Council and staff. He stated that he
felt very uncomfortable with the material
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received last week from the City Manager
as to what the Council had before it. He
stated that the material was basically in
general terms as far as how many dollars
to be cut from departments and the kind
of services we are not going to get, but
he could not put his finger on what posi-
tions were to be cut - and perhaps that
was the intent. He stated that each one
of the memos say, well the library is
going to close at a certain time, but
there is really nothing definitive as far
as where the dollars come in and genera-
lities as to what is going to happen. He
stated that the memos made him very
uncomfortable.
City Manager Armas stated that was true,
however, when the specific amount was
known from the State, staff would come back
to Council with specific recommendations
on positions proposed for elimination.
Councilman Yee stated that if $1 million
or more was to be cut then the Council
needed an action plan already set up on
how we are going to do it. He stated
that one of the memos from the Assistant
City Manager dealt with a 15th reduction
in a mid-management position, yet he did
not know what that was talking about or
what money that was going to save.
City Manager Armas stated that it was
because there had not been discussions in
terms of guidance on specific service
areas that the Council did not want to
see adversely affected, so staff had only
provided a spectrum carried over for
discussion tonight for Council to provide
guidance.
Councilman Yee stated that if the memos
had said that we are going to save
$38,000 by doing X, Y, Z, then he could
understand that, but here was a memo that
said service reductions include elimina-
tion of two employee annual recognition,
events, Giant's Night, and a picnic. He
questioned what the dollar amount was,
because that was what would help him to
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understand it better.
Mayor Penna stated that Councilman Yee
was saying that he did not have the
background information to know what it
all means financially.
Councilman Yee stated that the Giant's
Night was not a good example, but if you
are going to eliminate six positions in
the Police Dept. or people on the street
he wanted to know the positions being
talked about or he had problems.
Vice Mayor Teglia stated that she did not
have a problem with the memos because
they were not implementing them. She
stated that the 3%, 4%, and 5% proposed
cuts were presented by the Departments
to show what would affect them in the
least painful manner in their judgment.
She stated that she presumed that once
the State budget has come back, then the
Council would discuss the cuts with each
Department and the rationale used for
reduction of personnel, rather than a
program cut and that could be discussed
with the Departments tonight.
Councilman Yee stated that he thought he
was here tonight to come up with a con-
tingency plan for any State cuts, rather
than wait for State action and have
another meeting because a plan was not in
place.
He stated that it bothered him to see a
memo that said the Manager was doing away
with $38,000, and would not tell the
Council where.
Councilman Drago stated that he agreed on
what Councilman Yee had touched on, and
cited his own concerns with the memos
that were not his priorities and once
this was approved the concept was across
the board and now was the time to say no.
He cited his concerns: six positions
eliminated in the Police Dept. for
$275,576 that had not been identified;
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the comment that access to the public and
emergency calls would not be answered
within the prescribed time periods, and
looking at one mid-management position in
the City Manager's Dept. with emergency
calls not being answered; did it mean
that the Communications Supervisor or
communications people would be elimi-
nated. He stated that he wanted to know
the positions being proposed for elimina-
tion in the City as a whole as proposed
by the Manager and Department Heads. He
stated that he did not believe that
across the board cuts were fair for the
community or good for the departments.
He stated that he believed the Council
was going to give direction to the
Manager for whatever State cuts, and he
should show us what positions were recom-
mended to be cut.
City Manager Armas reiterated that the
3%, 4% and 5% were not necessarily across
the board cuts or uniformly applied, and
if Council said tonight that public
safety was untouchable, then that would
be the direction followed.
Councilman Yee related the following:
that Council direction had been that
there would not be across the board cuts
in the City as a whole; questioned why
the City Manager had not come up with a
plan for the Council to set priorities;
questioned if the Council would rather
cut a policeman or a custodian.
Councilman Fernekes suggested using the
remaining $1 million of PERS money to
balance the State cuts.
Councilman Yee reiterated the need for a
plan to cover any amount of State cuts
with a prioritized list to reference
which was where the $1 million would come
into to play.
Councilman Drago related concern: about
the $2 million deficit before State cuts;
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that the 1992-93 budget shows a $1.1
million shortfall, and on top of that the
City could lose an unspecified amount
from the State.
Vice Mayor Teglia related: that the eco-
nomy would not be better in a year; that
departments were over staffed, and ser-
vice levels to be provided to the com-
munity should be determined for the next
four or five years; questioned what the
real costs of the cuts that have hidden
costs; what are the costs for services to
be provided to this community that are
reasonable; getting department heads
involved as a partnership so they can tell
us professionally from their particular
points of view what the Council was
to do was really sensible and answered
needs; didn't mind spending the $1
million if it meant it would keep the
City running for a number of years
because the economy would not get better
for a number of years.
Councilman Yee agreed with prioritizing
with a three to five year plan, and if
they not cut there would be greater cuts
next year, and we would not have the $1
million of PERS money. He stated that
cuts may not have to be in positions,
but if they were it would be a very, very
painful process.
Mayor Penna related: that the Council
should focus on revenues; the peaks and
valleys of the recession; did not want to
see building permit fees raised; the City
was losing money because of its land use
policies; inspectors come into a home to
inspect a new heater and look at
everything else for permits, so people
are not coming in for permits and the
City is losing thousands of dollars; that
the engineers are doing nothing about
code violations found on noise insula-
tion; people coming to the City for a
home addition are being referred to the
Design Review Board and Planning for a
cumbersome process so the improvements
are not being made, and the City suffers
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Discussion - Continued.
no revenue because of no permits; the
paramedics program fees were too low and
subsidized insurance agencies; could set
a lower fee for those without insurance
and higher rates for those with insuran-
ce; to look at cost effectiveness of ser-
vices other than police and fire; look at
the market area on what people are pre-
pared to afford; opening paramedic ser-
vices to competitive bidding; charging
hall rentals at rates comparable to pri-
vate industry rates; doing away with the
Design Review Board.
Vice Mayor Teglia related: that if
parking restrictions were rela~ed for
room additions it could be the degrada-
tion of neighborhoods. She expressed
agreement with paramedic fees being
raised. She stated that recreation ser-
vices were supported 50% by fees paid by
the public, and the City was not a busi-
ness, however, perhaps it was time to
look at contracting out the paramedics
program.
Mayor Penna remembered when the City
contracted out services through VTN which
had become a threat to the entire com-
munity.
City Manager Armas stated that if he
understood the Council he could deal with
affecting some cuts immediately alongside
the longer examination. He suggested the
following ranking: 1) public safety in
all areas; 2) maintenance and preserva-
tion of our infrastructure of our invest-
ments, meaning facilities; 3) leisure and
cultural, recreation and library.
Vice Mayor Teglia felt there should be a
fourth ranking - thinkers, for future
planning for our best interests.
Police Chief Datzman stated that he had
watched Department Heads cringe tonight
when their department was mentioned, and
felt uncomfortable because they could not
offer input.
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Discussion - Continued.
He stated that in his meetings with his
staff, if he did not ask at the end of the
meeting what they felt - then he could
have just sent them a note. He stated
that he could go back two to four years
ago, and we talked about long range
plans, and do we have the money.
He stated that while away on vacation
some decisions had been made on large
blocks of money and cuts and the
employees are highly concerned. He
stated that he had been upfront with his
people on the impacts and who was
affected by the cuts, and had told them
not to worry about it but do their job.
He stated that his job was to find a
way to try to save that job and keep
the services up, and come back and tell
Council how we are going to do it
without arbitrarily laying anyone off.
He stated that if there was going to be
long range planning, then we would not be
sitting here and talking about how many
positions we were going to lop off. He
stated that the departments should be
examined in such a way that department
heads can feel open to make a recommen-
dation up and down the line to find a way
to have a balanced budget next year.
He stated that our community is dif-
ferent, and we offer top quality services
and the employees don't worry about that.
He stated that he had seen a marked
departure from that and it was awkward
to be a part of that as well as being a
resident - to say what are we doing,
where are we going; and did not feel com-
fortable, and did not think the
atmosphere was conducive to opinions
being expressed.
He stated that the employees were all
worried about the cuts, who is going, and
do the people do a good job. He felt
that the atmosphere should have more par-
ticipating management heads to discuss how
these cuts are going to affect the various
City services. He stated that in his
Department he had been up front with his
people, and felt that the Council should
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Discussion - Continued.
allow the Department Heads to develop a
cut list and a balanced budget, otherwise
if there are arbitrary cuts there could
be a backlash.
He reiterated the need to utilize the
Department Head resources with open
dialogue before making these very
important decisions
Vice Mayor Teglia stated that she pre-
sumed that these percentage cuts were a
product of the Police Chief and were
offered up as the least damaging, least
punitive, and most cost effective.
Police Chief Datzman likened it to "if
you had to lose an eye - which one?"
He stated that in the past eight years he
had not had the resources in personnel or
equipment and had to cut his resources in
overtime and other things, and still
the expectation has been there that cer-
tain service levels be there. He stated
that that had been painless because the
process had been internal, however, there
comes a point where there is no place to
go in making real hardball decisions like
coming before the Council and saying we
won't be doing more traffic accidents for
the public unless someone is severely
injured; and this had never been done,
and it bothered him to be pushed to that
threshhold.
Vie Mayor Teglia stated that one recom-
mendation was to not have records open 24
hours a day, which would not bother her
rather than something else.
Councilman Drago stated that he would
like to know how many record requests
were made during given times before a
determination was made, and maybe have
the library open Sunday afternoon.
Mayor Penna stated that he agreed with
Chief Datzman with the professionalism
in the room, and assumed that the Manager
was going to each for input - that is the
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Discussion - Continued.
Councilman Fernekes left the Podium at
at 9:05 p.m., and did not return to the
meeting.
Motion to authorize letter to the 5-~
San Francisco Airports Commission
commenting on proposed mitigations
to be included in the San Francisco
International Airport Master Plan
Mitigation Program, and discussion
of direction on draft of proposed
amendment to the Roundtable MOU
re: SFIA Master Plan noise
mitigations.
structure.
Police Chief Datzman stated that he was
not being critical of the Manager, but
wanted open dialogue.
Vice Mayor Teglia made reference to cuts
from Prop 13, and the many meetings with
Department Heads, and wanted their pro-
fessional opinions again on where the
money was going.
Councilman Yee stated that the Chief was
saying that no one was asking staff to be
a party to the discussion, and felt it
was up to the Mayor to ask for comments.
Discussion followed: police records not
be open 24 hours a day; setting an
interim contingency plan rather than
waiting for State action, and then
another 45 days for the Manager's report;
that employees were scared because of the
economics; whether the employees knew who
was on the hit list; that the City
Manager would get back to the Council
on the timetable.
City Manager Armas understood that the
Mayor was satisfied with the letter pre-
sented in the packet, and the MOU was
generally satisfactory with a couple of
changes. Mayor Penna stated that he was.
He stated that our City's position was to
insist on the deletion of the language
that references dwelling units moved into
since Feb. 1983, and deletion of the
reference to vacant dwelling units.
He stated that with respect to Exhibit D,
to make it clear to the Roundtable that
the listing of items to be studied was
just that, and we are willing to look at
it but no endorsement.
Councilman Drago stated that he wanted to
discuss a letter received from Mr.
Dell'Angela, and questioned if his points
were valid.
Vice Mayor Teglia stated that she had
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Motion - Continued.
gone through the letter and there were
some points, but she did not think Mr.
Dell'Angela knew they had been
addressed. She stated that she took
exception to the section under noise: no
departure at stage 2 after a certain
hour. She questioned the down side of
this on cities and the county as a whole.
Mayor Penna stated that was a part of the
mitigation process, that the Airport
close their runways except for Runway 10,
and to move flights up so that when they
take off S.S.F. doesn't get a backlash.
He stated that Runway I is not going to
be used after nightfall so that Millbrae,
Burlingame, and Hillsborough are relieved
of backlash noises, he stated that they
had recommended that they close the
Airport between midnight and 6:00 a.m.
for international flights so we don't
have jumbo freighters taking off over
S.S.F. creating a single event that
exists at 2 or 3 in the morning. He
stated that these were part of the C/CAG
negotiating points.
Vice Mayor Teglia replied, not exactly,
those are the points that they were
recommending to the Roundtable work
program for study, but were not being
asked for straight out.
Mayor Penna stated that it was very con-
fusing because they were dealing with
C/CAG, the Roundtable, EIRs already
approved, and responses to the
mitigation.
Councilman Drago stated that the
Roundtable was nothing, just a forum for
the Airport Director.
Mayor Penna related that C/CAG says that
the Roundtable will become the voice for
C/CAG for the public comments.
City Manager Armas stated that to a large
extent what the Mayor said was true, the
Roundtable was largely a forum for
exchange of information between the com-
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Motion - Continued.
munity and the Airport, and C/CAG in law
is also the Airport Land Use Commission
and has an ALUC Committee that is advi-
sory. He stated that the important thing
being talked about here was the
agreement between C/CAG and the Airport
which essentially in some fashion is
going to get attached to either the EIR
or Master Plan or both as a way of
assuring that the Airport has to adhere
to those conditions. He stated that to
the extent that the Airport has some
reservations about attaching it to the
EIR, and it does, because it has been cer-
tified already and they don't want to
reopen the issue. He stated that
C/CAG's alternate position has been to
enter into a contractual agreement
between C/CAG and the Airport which will
have some contractual protection.
Vice Mayor Teglia related that C/CAG was
very new and was focusing on traffic and
congestion, and has not gotten into the
Airport issues and allowed the
Roundtable to be the Body to review and
recommend to C/CAG the noise mitigations
that were being included in the package
sent to C/CAG. She continued, which
included comments and requests from
public meetings and workshops for future
study. She stated that the Airport is
being asked to fund up to $100,000 a year
for the Roundtable to come up with infor-
mation on each one of those items, and
hopefully an implementation program, etc.
Discussion followed: City does not want
funds diminished for homes that are
vacant or for homes sold after 1983;
Councilman Drago did not want financial
penalties put in the letter; the Kopp
Bill and C/CAG negotiations; the Airport
variance; FAA controls the Airport's
hours; C/CAG's recommendation for a com-
munity housing fund to provide for
construction of affordable housing and
its restrictions; housing was not one of
the significant impacts identified, and
if that stands the Airport is not under
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2. Motion - Continued.
Closed Session for the purpose of
discussion of personnel matters, labor
relations, property negotiations and
litigation.
any lawful obligation to do extraodinary
mitigation in the area of housing; that
S.S.F. was the area for the housing
because other cities did not want it;
look at the E1Camino Real Corridor and
redevelopment funds; State strategy to
take away the housing set aside money and
channel it to schools, and access the
redevelopment dollars to the General
Fund; not supporting any bill out of
Sacramento that would cost the City
money, such as Assemblywoman Speier's
permit bill, etc.
City Manager Armas stated that the second
letter responds to the Mayor's concern
that there was not someone independently
verifying the accuracy of the noise data,
and the letter asks Roger to put this on
a future Roundtable agenda for
discussion.
He stated that Senator Kopp's SB1589 had
introduced another Bill that has to do
with the extent that a City has not
satisfied the housing element basically,
and allows an interested party to go to
the Courts and cause the Courts to rezone
areas that are not residential for resi-
dential development. He stated that the
Local Government Committee was to con-
sider it, but at the Author's request did
not hear it. He stated that any bill has
to be adopted by the end of August - and
was probably in limbo.
Vice Mayor Teglia felt that when it came
up the City should oppose the Bill.
City Manager Armas stated, then as he
understood it from the Council, both let-
ters were okay and the agreement with
the modifications described were
satisfactory.
Council adjourned to a Closed Session at
9:57 p.m. to discuss labor negotiations
pursuant to GC 54957.6 on AFSCME, pro-
perty negotiations on the Mazzanti pro-
perty pursuant to GC 54956.8.
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'RECALL TO ORDER:
ADJOURNMENT:
Mayor Penna recalled the meeting to order
at 10:37 p.m., all Council present, no
action was taken.
M/S Teglia/Drago - To adjourn the
meeting.
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
Time of adjournment was 10:37 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Barbara A. Battaya,
City of South San Francisco
~John R. Penn~a~ MayorP~ -
'~y of South]~an Francisco
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