HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 1996-03-20Mayor Jack Drago
Council:
Joseph A. Fernekes
Eugene R. Mullin
John R. Penna
Robert Yee
MINUTES
City Council
Municipal Services Building
Community Room
March 20, 1996
AGENDA
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
CALL TO ORDER: (Cassette No. 1)
ROLL CALL:
3. Capital Improvement Project - retrofitting of City
Hall and the Library and the Corporation Yard. 512
AC!IQN TAKEN
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
7:04 p.m. Mayor Drago presiding.
Council Present: Mullin, Yee and Drago.
Council Absent: Fernekes and Penna.
Mayor Drago stated he would like to get this meet-
ing over by 9:00 p.m., and move Item No. 3 up to
the first thing on the Agenda.
Director of Public Works Gibbs related: at the last
study session staff went through the CIP with
Council; some items needed further discussion and,
rather than go through the whole program, staff
pulled out items to be discussed tonight.
City Engineer Wong related: staff was directed to
move all of the East of 101 item out of the CIP
funding and they will be discussed at another ses-
sion; staff reallocated Orange Park Expansion to a
future year; staff looked at the work to be done at
the Corporation Yard, City Hall and light standard
for the potential abandonment of the railroad tracks;
there was a comment about sidewalks on Chestnut
that were not included and staff looked at that as
another project; included a small stripping job on
East Grand; talked about grade separation on South
Linden Avenue and setting aside amounts for a
feasibility study; it is already on the SMTA list of
projects, the money is available and the City has to
form up a project and compete with other projects.
Discussion followed: what about the flyover on
Oyster Point Interchange; that is part of the
Shearwater Development and Measure A monies;
Councilman Yee wants to put it in the Capital Im-
provement Program in the event the City needs
it as part of the development fees regardless of
where the money comes from; the City Manager
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~,NDA ~TION ~EN
__.3.. Capital Improvement Project - Continued.
Councilman Penna Arrived at the Meeting at 7:10 p.m.
._~.Vice Mayor Fernekes Arrived at the Meeting at 7:34 p.m.
will show it as a revenue stream that can be includ-
ed, as well as the hook ramps; staff has fully de-
ferred projects to get projects completed, such as
deferring the Lux Avenue Project so as to complete
the Orange Park Project; sanitary infiltration and
inflow study; the flow quantity that comes from the
storm drains; requirement to upgrade into the storm
drain system; the City cannot do anything until they
make a decision with San Bruno on the whole issue;
deferring expansion of the fire station and remodel-
ing of the MSB for public access and resuffacing the
garage; need projects for basketball lighting at
Sellick Park and bocci ball at Orange Park; a traffic
signal is needed at Chestnut and Hillside, but that is
a County project; Councilman Mullin thanked staff
for the maps in the staff report, but does not want
two sided copying in the future for it is too hard to
read; the number of years left of debt service for the
Price Club loan; Councilman Yee asked the Finance
Director to double check the amount for it is less
than ten years away; the City Manager thought,
what doesn't get paid back gets added to the obliga-
tion, but at some point it is forgiven so the interest
is secondary because there is only a certain cash
stream; Councilman Mullin wants to go over the
information on the trip generation fees; the East of
101 study identified concerns on traffic, sanitary
improvements, fire protection equipment, maintain-
ing capacity and underwater systems; esthetics of the
roadway and what can be done with access to the
bay with recreational trails; an analysis was prepared
of AB1600 to assess a cost for those who benefit,
which can be done through square footage or traffic
counts which led to the development fees; staff was
anticipating using part of the development fees for
Shearwater improvements, however, the Gateway is
tapped out on the East Grand Overpass which leaves
the downtown spotty; the improvements must be tied
to public improvements in the redevelopment
areas; any other fees will be on top of the Oyster
Point fees; Councilman Yee felt other options were
needed to explore, maybe set up an assessment
district, but there is no guaranty it will work;' staff
will come back with the various options and ask
what is feasible for they do not believe the creation
of districts will get the support of the property own-
ers; staff's numbers equate to $42.00 a trip based on
the City Engineer's market analysis, etc.
Further discussion ensued: based on Council direc-
tion at the last study session staff is going ahead
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
...~3. Capital Improvement Project - Continued.
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with the seismic retrofitting of the Library sometime
in the next couple of months; staff looked at the
funding options and took a look at putting an office
building where the annex is and based on that,
retained Group 4 to make studies and they will
present their findings.
Mr. Wayne Gherke, Group 4 Architecture, stated
his firm looked at building a new administration
building on the civic center site and looked at sev-
eral different options, but the problem is that it cuts
off the parking. He related the options: Options 1,
2, 3 and 5 are for a new two story City Hall at
20,000 sq. ft. in different locations with the Annex
demolished; Option 4 is for a single story City Hall
at 18,500 sq. ft. with the deletion of stairs and
elevators not required for a single story building and
the Annex would be demolished; Option 6 is for a
new two story City hall at 14,000 sq. ft., the Annex
would remain and be refurbished to provide a one
stop permitting center; the six options range in cost
from $4,835,100 for Option 6 to $5,544,500 for
Option 2.
He related: the former City Hall would be convert-
ed; the area of the Annex would be parking and the
parking would be displaced at City Hall; they had
added a little square footage for expansion and all
costs had been included; they have knowledge of the
site due to several remodelings; did a computer
reading of data on the type of construction based on
their own experience; it is not practical to add a
second floor to the Annex due to Code require-
ments.
Discussion followed: Mayor Drago hoped the total
figure would not exceed $3 million; Councilman
Penna felt if the estimated price is $5 million it is
more likely to come in at $6 or $7 million when
finished; the City Hall playground is used quite a
bit, so it is not wise to demolish it; Councilman
Penna wants to see a City Hall between the existing
one and the Library, but a corner makes more
sense; Councilman Yee opposes the Project for it
doesn't make sense to spend this kind of money,
even if we have the money, for it takes a lot to build
a City Hall and he certainly will not be on the
Council; he feels Council should go ahead with what
we have to do with this building and stay with the
plan; Vice Mayor Fernekes felt the plan was good,
but with the cost it is putting us out of the realm
AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
3. Capital Improvement Project - Continued.
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and he agrees with Councilman Yee in looking at
this facility; Councilman Mullin is balancing check-
books at $100,000 and is concerned that this is $5
million; it seems to him that this building is woeful-
ly inadequate and questioned what they can do with
the City Hall complex; Councilman Penna suggested
putting it to a vote of the people because more space
is needed; Mayor Drago does not think this is the
time for that and suggested shelving this idea and
proceed with the retrofitting of City Hall.
Discussion followed on the Corporation Yard: the
artist's rendering represents $6 million; the render-
ing was done some time ago and shows the old
Atkinson Building; the cost factor is $6,193,000 and
presented options to reduce the cost to $5.4 million
and wants Council to consider going ahead and tell-
ing staff to put the Project out to bid, because they
are not sure the estimated figures are what the bids
will come in at; it would take $50,000 to put it out
to bid to update the plans that were done 10 years
ago, and put in deducts that the project can do with-
out; etc.
Mr. Avanessian stated the site plan has to be re-
drawn because we have lost the street right-of-way
on the Atkinson site.
Discussion followed: if the City can acquire that
right-of-way we would save money; Atkinson and
now Kaiser owns the right-of-way; originally the
City thought it owned the right-of-way and designed
the Corporation Yard on top of it and then it was
discovered the City does not own it; City Manager
talked to Kaiser who thinks they only need half of
the property; the right-of-way will be used for a
covered shed for vehicles, but that can be shifted on
the site; is this a cadillac project and, if so, why not
a Ford project; this will be more square footage, but
everything will be housed there, including purchas-
ing and storage of supplies, whereas now only the
streets and parks have facilities; equipment deterio-
rates quickly if it is not housed at night; whether the
building can also be used for record retention;
Councilman Yee felt Council does not have a choice
it has to move forward; Mayor Drago looks at it as
a $5 million garage and wants staff to investigate the
cost of SamTrans storage facilities; a metal and
gunite building would not change the cost that much,
and would not be that good for the maintenance of
the heavy equipment and it could affect the
AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
3. Capital Improvement Project - Continued.
1. Residency employment preference. ,~'/,.~'..~
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fire fighting rating of the City; also, a metal build-
ing is not allowed by the Zoning Code; Vice Mayor
Fernekes noted this is the third plan and he would
like to see how it comes in after the bid.
Consensus of Council - To direct staff to go out to
bid on the new Corporation Yard.
Discussion followed: with the proviso that som~ne
call Samtrans and see what they paid for their metal
buildings; metal buildings are higher; Mr. Gherke
worked on a building for Samtrans 8 or 9 years ago
and he believes the cost was $13 to $14 million, but
it was a much bigger project; staff will provide the
information from Samtrans.
City Manager Wilson stated the Mayor wanted
agendized a review of the law in capabilities of
compensating residents or people for incentives to
have applicants live or stay here. He stated the City
Attorney will give a thump nail sketch on the law,
and then discuss a viable option.
City Attorney Mattas stated that all cities, including
charter cities, are prohibited from requiring their
applicants for jobs to live in the City. He related:
reasonableness of distance requirements in the
Kirkwood case; the City's Personnel Rules and
Regulations currently require that classified employ-
ees live within 75 miles of City Hall; staff could not
identify any state law which specifically authorizes
any particular form of incentives; obvious con-
straints on gifts of public funds and limitations on
granting extra compensation for work that has al-
ready been performed; could offer to provide cur-
rent employees who live in $.S.F. with an oppor-
tunity to serve the City in exchange for some
adjustment in their compensation, such as neighbor-
hood disaster assistance coordinators as a service to
the City; etc.
Discussion followed: giving points as incentives as
is done with the veterans points; veteran points are
across the board; if an applicant is a veteran they are
allowed five points on the test; additional compensa-
tion for speaking a second language; senior points
for closed promotions; the Fire Department has the
NERT Program and maybe we can pay employees
$50.00 for living in the City for Mayor Drago
knows NERT's value during an emergency; there
is always the problem of an applicant using a
A~DA A~TION TAKEN
3. Capital Improvement Project - Continued.
2. Downtown zoning ordinance - density. ,5'0 gq
relative's address to take advantage of the program
and it is difficult to monitor; corporate boundary; is
a resident someone who comes here Monday morn-
ing and leaves Friday; yes, if owning or renting
property in the town; etc.
Councilman Penna stated he asked for this to be
brought up because he has been concerned about
a lack of quality housing appearing in areas in
S.S.F. He sees a deterioration occurring over what
has been there and his purpose is to discuss what
was the situation prior to the existing zoning that
changed the density for R-3 in 1984. He stated
prior to 1984 the City was experimenting with ways
of slowing growth by increasing the parking to one,
to one and a half and then two, and decreased the
density of the lot size.
He stated, from an economic viewpoint, there was
typically a 50 x 140 ft. lot with seven units on it
whereas today it only has four units on it which is
not economically feasible for contractors to come in
and purchase those lots and build. So, what is
taking place is that the resale is for people keeping it
in the existing condition and running them to the
ground without improvements taking place. So, he
wants Council to discuss with staff the possibility of
going back to pre 1984 standards, even though he
knows there were problems with curb cuts, the
design of buildings and parking could be handled.
Councilman Yee stated these are different signals for
sometime ago we asked to change from 1.2 to high-
er and now we are to go back. What is to encour-
age that, other than more, just because Penna says to
do that. Do we have evidence that people are turn-
ing away because the parking is too stringent - what
information do we have. He does not mind sending
this to Planning, but he wants more information.
He stated that staff already concluded this is not
going to work, but if we send it to the Planning
Commission there is a message we want to change
it.
Councilman Mullin stated he read the staff report
and talked to Councilman Penna about it and ques-
tioned what is happening in the downtown corridor
for it is looking shabby. He questioned what has
occurring since 1984 or 1986 since they changed the
parking requirement for the Armor area for he
teaches kids from that area that don't live in condi-
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AGENDA ACIIQN TAKEN
1. Residency - Continued.
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tions that are beneficial to the City. He questioned
the options available.
Director of Planning Solomon stated there has been
little new development.
Discussion followed: there are some zoning and
administrative changes being made to allow people
to put in improvements with a little more flexibility
and cheaper costs; there are people that have hous-
ing and may want to invest and improve the housing
stock; plan to use CDBG funds and assist people
make improvements to their homes in problem
areas; Council should target some areas where there
are signs of deterioration or overuse of the property
and approach a way of designing how you can
modify the size, setbacks or parking; one of
the problems in the staff report are related to the
size of the parcels and one that won't create addi-
tional impact problems; Councilman Mullin felt
merging lots might make conditions worse and
prefers rehab through redevelopment or private
development rather than government jumping in;
he was on the Commission when it was one parking
space and got out of that because the parking was
horrendous, but if there are ways to make modifi-
cations to create more on street parking he would
not be against it; Mayor Drago suggested expanding
the Parking District all the way up Linden and pick
up parking, as well as putting in a parking lot;
Councilman Penna asked if he had a conflict on this
item due to his being a realtor; City Attorney Mattas
responded, once they focus the area down then we
have to look at the properties Councilman Penna
owns and the business he does, but today the Coun-
cil has not taken any action and is only looking
at proposals; the olympic torch is coming through
our City and the Mayor hopes the businesses will
participate with putting flags out; the Mayor is
trying to get the Chamber, service clubs and the
schools to put together bands and flags throughout
the whole run; Councilman Mullin reminded Coun-
cil that the CDBG Subcommittee wanted individual
recommendations by Friday; Councilman Penna
cannot make the meeting on the 20th and asked
Allene to reschedule the meeting; City Manager to
schedule a study session on the Treatment Plant
before a meeting with San Bruno; the Mayor of San
Bruno asked for a study session with our Council;
anticipated changes to the Treatment Plant opera-
tions and staffing changes; City Manager to set up
AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
ADJOURNMENT:
a meeting for both cities; Public Works Director of
San Bruno and S.S.F. and staff are in agreement;
Mayor Drago wants a bus tour of the City on
4/17/96; etc.
M/S Mullin/Penna - To adjourn the meeting.
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
Time of adjournment was 9:15 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Barbara A. Battaya, City Clerk
City of South San Francisco
APPROVED.
Drago, Mayor
of South San Francisco
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