HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 1997-04-30 Mayor Joseph A. Feruekes
Council:
James L. Datzman
Eugene R. Mullin
· qohn R. Penna
Robert Yee
MINUTES
City Council
338
Municipal Services Building
Community Room
April 30, 1997
AGENDA
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETINO
CALL TO ORDER: (Cassette No. 1)
ROLL CALL:
1. EMS and a second ambulance.
ACTIQN TAKEN
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
5:35 p.m. Mayor Fernekes presiding.
Council Present:
Council Absent:
Datzman, Mullin, Yee and
Fernekes.
Penna.
City Manager Wilson related: we are aware that
the entire County is seeking to upgrade emergency
medical service in the County; this will save money
through deployment of ambulances and the money
saved is pumped back into the agencies; the Fire
Chief and the Mayor have been involved and are the
north County representatives on the Committee;
Fitch & Assoc., who designed the EMS Model
Analysis, will be coming to meet with us and de-
scribe the value of the program.
Fire Chief Stark showed slides with a map overlay
of areas covered by the Fire Department in four
minutes. He related: the private provider ambu-
lance saves money if we provide the service, but our
City is unique and does not expect change other than
to upgrade our service; the County runs ambulances
and in each ambulance they have two paramedics
with response requirements under the agreement and
there are pockets of the County that are not well
served, and others quite well; if the County said
they wanted a more uniform response time, we don't
want the dead pockets that take a different deploy-
ment of ambulances and they can save money in the
sense of only having one paramedic; he thinks they
can still have a different deployment of ambulances
and still meet the requirements for the obligation in
care of the patient is with the first to respond,
and we will be the party that assures that emergency
care service; he wanted to stress that this is for the
balance of the County, we will be a party, but we
will charge our costs, but not the County's; he des-
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cribed the multi-use plan in the City done in 1993
after looking at the work demand and our present
capability, as a result we focused our resources into
medical emergency services and there have been
upgrades; we introduced perarrival of medical
instructions to callers, defibulators on all of the fire
cars, and increased paramedics by 15% without
added staffing, added two ALS into the system,
contracted out the bill and increased our revenue by
30%; we just recently placed the second ambulance
in service; areas covered and response time from the
MSB is four minutes for one ambulance; CPR and
the onset of brain damage that makes the response
time so critical; that paramedics were placed down-
town at Baden to increase the four minute response
time; Cypress has a heavy 12% ease load; paramed-
ics were placed at Station 64 to get their res-
ponse time down to four minutes; clock time starts
when the call comes in; from the time of the call we
can cover all of the City in six minutes, however,
the goal is four minutes from moment of dispatch;
there were two ALS engines and one ambulance;
they added a second ambulance two months ago; we
delayed the ALS because we relied on Baystar and
paid a high bill; second ambulance reduces Baystar
by 75%, for Baystar covers us, but is slower;
Baystar's average price is $900, while our paramed-
ics charge $565 + disposable costs; looking for
opportunities for the future for paramedic scope of
practice to preventative medicine in blood tests and
inoculations; we can improve the level of County
service, for our fire engines get to the scene quicker
with our paramedics, who can stabilize patients until
the ambulance arrives and the Fire Dept. would be
reimbursed for our costs; Baystar only has two
paramedics.
Discussion followed: our service levels have always
been higher than elsewhere, and the benefit of our
having two ambulances results in lower costs to the
patients; the second ambulance is to expand our
service and if we can blend both programs, then we
will get the patient within 3 - 3 1/2 minutes; we are
a 201, for we started the paramedic program and
we are grandfathered in and the only city able to
transport in the County, while the Supreme Court
seems to be siding with the County that cities cannot
transport; there are court challenges to continue
grandfathering in 201 rights are awaiting Supreme
Court decisions; San Jose can provide the services
cheaper, but went private; some cities like Atherton
AGENDA
1. EMS and a second ambulance.
ECESS:
RECALL TO ORDER:
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are hard for Baystar to service in the County's time
frame; the RFP for County ambulance will be re-
leased in June and the JPA is in draft form and will
come in June; establishment of Board; the JPA is
non-binding unless we sign off; the Mayor, City
Manager and the Fire Chief have not met with
Fitch; there are zones in Brisbane that could contract
with us and we can get the value in cash or upgrad-
ing, maybe all of our engines to ALS; there are
18 paramedics for our City, but they are used for
ambulances, so the other people will need more;
with the County plan every engine would have a
paramedic; ALS means a paramedic is on the fire
engine; an ambulance call costs $500, but an engine
with ALS is free; although we have two ambulances
they can respond to a fire initially; we have 2,000
medical responses a year and transport 1,200 a
month with a 1/3 to Kaiser, Seton and others; the
trauma centers are at S.F. General and Stanford, so
if we transport ambulances out to trauma centers
they are out of commission longer; there are three
engines in each area for coverage in the north area
and have a standard mutual aid agreement and this
would have the same boundaries and coverage; etc.
Mayor Fernekes called a recess at 6:35 p.m.
Mayor Fernekes recalled the meeting to order at
7:03 p.m.
Planning Commissioners Present: Baldocchi,
Barnett, Masuda, Padreddii, Sim, Teglia and
Romero.
Planning Commissioners Absent: None
Director of Economic & Community Development
Van Duyn introduced new Chief Planner Jim
Harnish.
Chief Planner Harnish stated he has been a consul-
tant for the City working on the general plan and
previously worked with Mr. Van Duyn in the past,
and was delighted to again work with him, as well
as live and work here.
He related: the purpose of the meeting is to
introduce the general plan project and allow the
Planning Commission to give their thoughts on the
issues to be addressed to the Council; this is a great
opportunity to take a step back and look where you
A~ENDA
A joint meeting with the Planning Commission on the
General Plan - Continued. ~'0~ c]
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are going in the next several years; in his experience
the process will take eight months to determine what
is important to you and the community; it can be
difficult at times, but this is a cohesive community
and he looked forward to the work.
Mr. Rajeev Bhatia, owner of Dyett & Bhatia, stated
the purpose of the meeting is actually for his firm to
listen to what the two bodies have to say and gave
everyone a handout with an agenda and overall
schedule. He related: State law allows us to have
optional dements as long as the General Plan in-
eludes all mandatory items; it does not have a safety
element; the Council will step back and decide
where you want to be in twenty years and decide the
overall strengths of the City and steps to be
taken; the General Plan will be important and State
law requires a series of requirements on zoning,
capital improvements and acquisitions that are all
required to be consistent with the General Plan; the
General Plan will be comprehensive with the entire
City; after the meeting he will meet with the
Councilmembers to listen to each of their issues that
are important in their minds; then there will be a
couple of meetings with individual Planning Com-
missioners to get into more detail; based on the
recollections and the issues assembled the first major
report will be made; after that analysis we will be
prepared to be more focused on land alternatives and
will come back with that based on the evaluations
from the two bodies and the public for a preferred
land use and provide the basis to prepare the draft
EIR; after the hearing we will be getting to the
General Plan and the on-going schedule is in the
handout; it is a two and a half year plan; they have
only started mapping and then they can tabulate
actual land uses to show how much land is vacant,
and how much is commercial to provide a good
basis and his firm will be documenting reports exist-
ing in the City; this will be overlaid in the comput-
ers to summarize the conditions and will look ahead
to the issues and planning impacts.
Discussion followed: what have been the trends in
the geological service; is information assembled in
auto cad information systems; information is in the
computer and is not changed by hand; information
can be put on the web; the firm has a web site that
can be accessed, do error tabulations and buffer
analysis within a thousand feet of 101; why is the
consultant meeting with individual Council before
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2. A joint meeting with the Planning Commission on the
General Plan - Continued.
342
developing the document or are you looking for us
to provide additional information; the consultant is
not looking to the Council for actual information,
for they will provide that themselves, it will be wide
topics, so the purpose of these meetings is to find
out from each of you if there is an overriding con-
cern in the City that is felt to be a priority; so the
consultant will have a check list that will be the
basis for our conversations; the intent for the con-
versations is to help focus the plan; there is
a huge amount of information, which after being
gathered, will be focused on, so give the consultants
your concerns on what is important, not just for
this but, the subsequent alternatives and ideas; the
consultant will come back to Council on issues, but
will not be formulating any policies; when Council-
man Mullin gives his students a test, he first lets
them know the scope of what is going to be cow
ered; Councilman Yee asked where the slide or
picture is that shows the different elements of the
General Plan, for they are mandatory; wouldn't it be
logical tonight to take the list and go over it and get
the comments from the Commission and Council, so
we don't go all over the place and not know at the
end where we are; the consultant will be evaluating
the cost of the alternatives, and they want to under-
stand the fiscal impacts and will be meeting periodi-
cally with various department heads and have news
letters going out and postings to the web site; there
will be a time for the public hearings for input from
the public; they will be looking at history of land
uses and the implications in terms of revenue gener-
ation; the potential for expansion and its impact on
the City and its business licenses; once he has an
assessment he will be doing a real estate analysis of
the marketing segments and potential for growth; he
will look at all of the industrial development and it
is dominated right now by freight forwarding on
which they will be making an individual assessment;
they will look at R&D and biotech businesses, for
that is the greatest potential for growth for the City,
and they will look at enhancements to attract those
types of businesses, as well as hotels; the service
sales are of tremendous value and he will look for
more; they are looking to capturing each of the land
uses over a 10-15 year horizon and once we have
the alternatives he will capture the benefits of the
land use to the City and compare the revenue; the
last piece of the study will be helping put together
the economic policies that will enhance opportunities
for economic growth in the City; S.S.F. is one of
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AGENDA
2. A joint meeting with the Planning Commission on the
General Plan - Continued.
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the most competitive in the regional area over the
County to attract what we are looking for; etc.
City Manager Wilson asked if Mr. Bhatia was going
to be factoring in improvements of transportation we
may want to consider or a strategy to identify the
needs.
Discussion followed: yes, he would be and he was
glad it was a group effort; there may be more im-
pacts from the Airport, more than the tourists and
the freight forwarding; there is the whole issue of
BART and the rail; the firm will be looking at the
transportation alternatives and comparing the trip
generation; Brisbane and San Bruno should also be
looked at; there is a 25 page package covering the
work program; this has opened a lot of interesting
avenues and approaches which should be addressed,
rather than ad hoeing as the Council goes along; is
this for the whole City or only East of 101; it ap-
plies to the whole City; etc.
The following opinions were voiced: Councilman
Penna wants higher density for the downtown, 40-50
units to the acre from Spruce to Airport, Railroad to
Hillside and then diminishing as it goes to Orange to
Chestnut using those buffers to try to accommodate
the higher type skilled jobs that will be occurring
here, so the people can live and work here; this
would also spur redevelopment for the decaying
areas of the downtown and rejuvenate the commer-
cial areas; it makes sense to him, the phasing out of
freight forwarding at least on the east of 101 area
and possibly seeing some of it on the south west side
between So. Spruce and Airport and 101 and he
wants the incorporation of the Country Club area
into S.S.F.; Vice Mayor Mullin wants the El
Camino Corridor and the chance to accommodate
BART; he thinks we need to get a broader look at
those areas of the City; Mayor Fernekes concurs
with that and looks at the industrial park with no fast
freight forwarding; he thinks the City needs a mix
of all types of business, but has some concerns
about the large number that will come from the en-
largement of the Airport and the freight coming in,
but you have to look at the economic aspect of
bringing in business that has a lot of impact, where
the fast freight forwarding doesn't; he believes the
only revenue generated is the business licenses
compared to the other businesses that bring revenue
without impact to the area; Councilman Yee stated,
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General Plan - Continued.
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to a certain extent it makes sense, but if you in-
crease the density to 40 in the downtown you are
going to lose a certain amount of quality of life,
and he does not believe that is the direction; we
need to take a look at how the Airport expansion
relates to us in terms of residential or commer-
cial or industrial land use; we know the Airport
is going to be the generator and the BART is going
through; rather than just look at freight forward-
ing, we have to look at the Airport - what are
needs, what are the types of people that will use the
Airport, how can we take advantage and balance our
economic needs, and also to those commuting; we
have to look at it, balance it rather than take the
definitive line; clearly the opportunity is here and he
thinks this particular exercise is good for us; Coun-
cilman Datzman stated he likewise has concerns
about the Airport expansion, what that means, and
he does not know the use of air freight to translate
to a benefit; he does not know, when you talk about
the whole economic development, because some-
times things happen to a community; he is con-
cerned about the water front area and how that is
development, because he thinks it is a real plus and
unique, and when it is gone it is gone; he is very
interested in recapturing what might move it in the
right direction and watched a tape on what some
other communities did with outdoor restaurants; he
wants to look at a doming complex concept; Com-
missioner Barnett agreed on the impacts of the Air-
port expansion on the community which will bring
in more passengers, but does not see the freight
forwarders increasing revenue; he thinks the
downtown renovation is huge and he would like to
see it happen and see the stores full; he was im-
pressed on the walk-through with the train station on
Baden as an entrance to the City; he would like to
see S.S.F. get a little more vibrant and thinks east of
101 is a discussion worthy of merit; we need to see
it growing; he is impressed with the Genentech area
and the whole campus idea, rather than a bunch of
hard core businesses; Commissioner Sim has similar
concerns as those voiced by Councilmembers; he is
excited with the urban design element he saw in the
outline; the El Camino Corridor and So. Airport he
would like to see as a sensitive design and one
piece to tie it to the rest of the community; a
project that is commercial on the first floor,
residential above, and parking behind, for you
don't want to see parking; he thinks lthe Airport
parking; he thinks the Airport expansion is ex-
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General Plan - Continued.
citing, but wants more of the urbane design; Com-
missioner Padreddii wants to look at Country Club
Park area because the time will come when the
County will want us to take it over; the other is the
Hillside boundary where half of the kids go to
schools in Brisbane and people think they are going
to S.S.F. schools, and they are not, which he thinks
should be looked at; if you want to promote business
you have to be careful when you use the word shall,
which has no compromise, whereas if you say may,
then you give us leeway; Chairman Romero stated
he feels the entire area of El Camino, between Mis-
sion Road and Chestnut to Hickey, is going to be
booming and it is important to have a plan; the area
east of 101 traffic is going to be busy with freight
traffic and we should have controls to allow those to
come into the City and we have to be flexible to
open up other areas; Commissioner Baldocchi stated
in the field trip east of 101 there was a lot of ears
parked everywhere and she would like to have park-
ing enforced and transportation to the Caltrain Sta-
tion and bringing them into the east of 101 area; she
feels open space is being compromised and there is
not much land for housing development; she wants
to see standard streets and sidewalks in the devel-
opments where people are walking in the community
and it is a safe community; you are safe Mr. Execu-
tive and you can raise your children and they will
want to stay here; we have to work on the schools
for new boundaries, for we are going to be devel-
oping all of these houses; Commissioner Masuda
stated his problem is east of 101 and air freight;
Grand Avenue does not have a shoe store or a
clothing store, and yet the air freight keeps coming
in and the businesses are trying to claim this city
was made from air freight business; Commissioner
Teglia spoke of the economic focus on the east of
101 and the land uses and understood the comments
on freight forwarding and its impact; Genentech has
been a great corporate neighbor which is a great
plus, but even that type of use doesn't generate a lot
of revenue - they are low tax generators; part of the
problem downtown is supply and demand and it is
being filled; he thinks to stimulate a lot of redev-
elopment in the old town we have to adopt ordinanc-
es that will encourage people to renovate existent,
non-conforming buildings rather than just sit,
because they cannot do improvements; the high tech
people are looking at a quality of life that a high
density in the downtown will not attract, instead it
will be a number of apartments, so the mix and the
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General Plan - Continued.
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parking impacts are important; on the east of 101,
he thinks the waterfront is a jewel and the
Shearwater is the gateway, is the largest piece and
with the waterfront, there have been beautiful
proposals in the past; he would hate to see us
settle below our expectations and that is important;
he is really curious at what the Airport projections
are, and he understands they are discussing freight
which he thinks they are trying to divert to Oakland
and there will be more international passengers; etc.
Further discussion followed: Vice Mayor Mullin
felt the focus is phasing out of freight forwarders;
Councilman Penna stated if a higher density took
place in the downtown, this should become a kind of
transportation to take people to the opposite end of
town to keep people here; his concern is that BART
will have a major impact in the community because
of the commuters down the peninsula using the fa-
cility and the impact of traffic on the street for we
need shuttles from the east side to go to the indus-
trial park and the station; if we lose Caltrain we are
going to have more impact from the people coming
up from the peninsula; he always gets complaints on
Samtrans and buses and its disjointed; his daughter
takes a bus from San Mateo to S.S.F. every day and
that is a direct route; ridership is a focus of
where they come from and how long is the service
and the size of the bus; transportation is going to be
an important ingredient; Councilman Yee stated
there are a number of items in transportation, for
there was a public hearing notice that Caltrain is
going to go to the Transbay Terminal; the only thing
holding it up is not finding the money; tie it to the
Giants ball park; we could focus on our own City on
transportation, for we started looking at it on the
east of 101 and how it could be done; there are a
couple of elements that are important, for it seems
to him that when a developer comes into the City
we need to make a point that they have to partici-
pate in the transportation element; how can they be
finely or morally obligated to be part of the
system; we have TSM and we need to make it work;
TSM is to get people out of their cars and vanpool
or use different means of getting out of the car;
we have to make an effort to get the people to
participate; we have a San Mateo County Transpor-
tation Plan that projects highway traffic and we
need alternative routes, like getting to the Airport
without using 101; we have to look at the bigger
picture and how we can move people in the City
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General Plan - Continued.
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without waiting for other people to force us to do it;
Redwood City has a task force trying to figure out a
way; Commissioner Padreddii stated the problem he
sees with transportation is Oyster Point, for
all the traffic comes down and comes to the inter-
section and then crosses over the freeway to go
south and you also have all the cars from the Cow
Palace that go left to the overpass to go south; every
one from the downtown has to come down Airport
and then go south; now with the Shearwater this is a
serious problem and they should never have closed
the on ramp at Linden, for people say Caltrans says
it is illegal; Councilman Yee stated this is not a
typical interchange, and staff went through a lot of
alternatives, but the hook ramp is really the one
north of Brisbane and there will be a flyover for the
Shearwater; the Linden on-ramp is substandard in
Caltrans eyes; Commissioner Masuda stated, if you
watch the tandem bus going west on Grand Avenue
there are only four people on it, so if it is not profit-
able it should be taken out by Samtrans because it is
long and wide; Commissioner Teglia works in the
industrial area and people without cars complain
about the lack of busing and others use their cars for
convenience; there was a survey of transportation
needs distributed out there and people didn't fill it
out; perhaps a shuttle service is the answer and
maybe we should encourage the businesses to make
the connection; Genentech has a shuttle that goes to
the train station and the BART station, and if there
is that great a demand maybe we could have free
tickets for rides home; Councilman Datzman stated
people are upset in Country Club from the traffic
going through and gridlock; he is excited about
something being done in the downtown, and the
third issue is water transportation; the consul-
tant talked about the light rail being extended to
United Airlines area and there is a study where it is
to be Route A or B, what we can do is have light
rail extended to some point along Airport and have a
plan; who would pay for a road behind the Sewage
Treatment Plant, a road coming out on Littlefield
and going right into Genentech; coming in behind
the street borders on Haskins property; the City
would pay for it after a lot of statistics; that would
go into the BCDC, you would be in the water; the
Fingers property is out there; Mayor Fernekes just
read in the paper about a developer looking at Sign
Hill; he has concerns about going into open space;
we have purchased land from the high schools and
we should protect open space; ultimately that will
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General Plan - Continued.
come before Council and the open space will be
discussed, then we could have a plan that shows all
the trails for bikes and walking from Point A to B
and there will be a so-called trail over BART, and
we need a plan to develop, including the plan that
we tried to get for the abandoned railroad between
Genentech; all of these plans should be on the plan
that we can accept and say this is how we see the
park trail, including the bay front; Commissioner
Baldocchi believes we need to preserve open space
and is happy to see people riding bikes out at
Shearwater and would like to see that preserved, but
develop part of it; 100' of Shearwater is preserved
and controlled by BCDC; there should be a strip of
grass or a trail behind the Kaiser property along the
canal; whether Council should get input from the
Parks & Recreation Commission on how they see
the trails; look at ferry service on the waterfront
areas; Councilman Yee stated former Councilman
Nicolopulos pushed for waterfront ferry service, but
it is supply and demand; there is a channel there that
can be dredged and boats placed there; conservation
is what gives the natural beauty and the City could
be planting trees on the southern side of Sign Hill;
Councilman Yee feels the noise element should
encompass the aircraft noise, right now the aircraft
noise is within the 65 CNEL; perhaps the City can
use left over funds to insulate homes in that area;
Commissioner Masuda stated their field trip took
them to Camaritas, which is not included in the
footprint, and you could not hear anything for the
airplane noise; aircraft noise at specified intervals is
different than having it every four minutes; there
should be a strategy to deal with single event noise;
Commissioner Teglia feels it is a regional focus
because a lot of that has to do with the flight paths
and the Roundtable which could affect us with other
cities having flight patterns changed; that is not
allowed; Commissioner Padreddii stated the Airport
has certain regulations on coming up the gap, only
11% should come up the gap; he feels the key
problem is extending the runway, so they could go
over the cities higher, but they don't throttle back
down; there are standards a pilot must follow on
noise abatement, but it is left to the pilots discretion;
Woodside and Atherton are complaining about
planes flying over at 4:00 a.m.; the consultant is not
doing a comprehensive revision of the housing
element; Councilman Datzman is concerned about
preserving quality of life issues where you wake up
one morning and find there is no longer a grocery
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AGENDA ACTION TA ~I~
2. A joint meeting with the Planning Commission on the
General Plan - Continued.
ADJOURNMENT:
Closed Session, pursuant to GC 54956.9, conference
with legal Counsel on existing litigation - S.S.F. vs.
Harding Lawson Assoc., et al.
ECALL TO ORDER:
ADJOURNMENT:
store in your neighborhood or there is no school or
there is no longer a school; the Council has to peti-
tion the School District, through the Liaison Com-
mittee, to have the boundaries changed to include
Terrabay; they are closing the Westborough and the
Chestnut grocery stores; old town has no grocery
store; Safeway wants grand super markets with
bakeries, a florist and a drugstore and that much
land is not available; City Manager Wilson stated,
this is a critical issue, for now we have open space,
yet there are fundamental needs perhaps greater than
open space; etc.
M/S Padreddii/Barnett - To adjourn the Planning
Commission meeting.
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
Time of the Planning Commission meeting adjourn-
ment was 9:00 p.m.
Council entered a Closed Session at 9:01 p.m.
Mayor Fernekes recalled the meeting to order at
9:29 p.m., all Council was present, no action was
taken and direction was given.
M/S Mullin/Yee - To adjourn the meeting.
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
Time of adjournment was 9:30 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Barbara A. Battaya, City Clerk
City of South San Francisco
APPROVED.
Jos rnekes, Mayo~
Cit~f ~;u~r~eakn~ Francisco
._..~e entries of this Council meeting show the action taken by the City Council to dispose of an item. Oral communiea-
~ns, arguments and comments are recorded on tape. The tape and documents related to the items are on file in the
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