HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 1997-07-16 Mayor Joseph A. Fernekes
Council:
James L. Datzman
Eugene R. Mullin
'""-John R. Penna
Robert Yee
AGENDA
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
CALL TO ORDER: (Cassette No. 1)
ROLL CALL:
2. Oyster Point Road system.
7/16/97
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MINUTES
City Council
Municipal Services Building
Community Room
July 16, 1997
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ACTION TAKEN
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
6:08 p.m. Mayor Fernekes presiding.
Council Present:
Council Absent:
Datzman, Mullin, Penna, Yee and
Fernekes.
None.
Mayor Fernekes stated he was rearranging the order
in which the items will be heard, and item 1 will be
heard after item 3.
City Manager Wilson stated he had asked the staff
member to control the presentation and honor the
two hour focused meeting concept.
Director of Public Works Gibbs related: problems
previously discussed on widening of Oyster Point,
and Caltrans and the exit of the ramp at the Gate-
way; he showed artistic renderings of the project, its
beginning and where it will pick up on the way to
the Marina; he had consultants looking at all aspects
of the project, including traffic counts and the EIR;
they looked at the numbers both here and across the
bridge at the hook ramps down at the end at Echols
and they have an overall picture; the level of service
(D is based on the type of intersection) is acceptable
to Caltrans; with the flyover, the geometrics for
the original design were put together with the origi-
nal Phase One and Two of the Project; Caltrans is
ready to accept this level, so we can actually build
the Caltrans intersection, it's not a problem any
more and they are all set to go ahead; this side is the
archeological side where the original hook ramps
dumped into the archeological site; because of the
archeological site we started looking into alterna-
tives, because there is work to be done, it has to be
widened to an alignment with the hook ramps; we
could not build the hook ramps on the archeolog-
ical site because they would dump into the site; 101
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is under the flyover ramp; the problem is the utility
relocation, the estimate of time to relocate; there
was a meeting with Brisbane and there is a problem
with this in getting the south bound ramp on cost;
there are excessive costs for relocating the utilities,
plus the value of the land; Brisbane was supposed to
have an on-ramp and then the archeological problem
put a monkey in the works; there was always an
agreement that when the owners of Terrabay devel-
oped Phase 3, at that time, there would be a ramp
built on 101 south and this is more complicated
from the Sister Cities Blvd.
Discussion followed: Terrabay is looking to con-
struction for their workers and people in the com-
munity's employment; they are looking for impacts
for their workers headed southbound and at the
future, for they have a five year plan that talks about
growth; they are one of the largest land bankers for
future development; when that starts to build out
there is going to be a growing need; the question is,
if you don't design this currently, you could pre-
clude adding an on-ramp in the future; so, this plan
is the seventh plan and it brings forward the reloca-
tion costs and provides for the flyover and the hook
ramps.
Discussion followed: why is it going to matter
when it is being built over ground; on the freeway
side of the Bayshore, the utilities and a 4 inch gas
line are at the surface and you can't get down to the
freeway with the right curves - that is the problem;
this scheme before Council takes the southbound
ramp over the top of the utilities, but it means the
flyover has to be raised at this point so you can get
under it; Caltrans says you can't do that without
doing something to the City's ramps; Brisbane, at
the meeting, said we shouldn't build the flyover
until this is done, but we need our flyover, for that
takes 60% of the traffic; so the question is should
we go ahead to redesign our flyover and deal with
Caltrans when we move the Sister Cities Blvd. a few
feet and we can get the alignment into an acceptable
position; most of it will be in Brisbane or Caltrans'
right-of-way; who is going to use the on-ramp;
Terrabay with the hotels and Brisbane will be com-
ing down Bayshore; Brisbane already has an exit on
the freeway going south, so who are we accommo-
dating in Brisbane; there is a fair amount of devel-
opment that could occur and they will be headed
south; if you go up to Airport Blvd. now, you see
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:2. Oyster Point Road system - Continued.
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existing development, old and ratty, and there is
light manufacturing and a fair amount of that land
that will be redeveloped; when the staff was working
with all entities, the State, Brisbane and ourselves
the question was, do we have the ability to resolve
all needs and perceived needs and can it be done; it
is better to remake a design than to improve it in the
future, if not engineering now then later; if we look
for funding their way, there could be new wrinkles,
but we are looking at a solution where the engineer-
ing works to move traffic, wherever it came from, if
they make a left on Sister Cities; what you have
here is a project that will accommodate it as you get
into the funding with the neighborhood community
there is a lot of advantage to come up with a solu-
tion that works for all; if we do the off-ramps
and the on-ramps and make the curves now, we are
coming off the S.S.F. project by the archeological
site by Bayshore freeway; the realignment of Airport
Blvd. goes on to S.S.F. property, so when that
happens doesn't it take it away from Brisbane; yes;
so why do you have to have an agreement with
Brisbane; because Brisbane controls the right-of-
way; Airport Blvd. is our obligation and the right-
of-way is Brisbane's; later the Council has to decide
who is going to maintain this; Brisbane does not
have any problems, but wants to be assured that if
we go ahead and build the flyover, when the timing
is right, that they could put this on-ramp out there;
Director of Public Works Gibbs stated there is 95%
approval and he is going to present this to Caltrans
and all he is doing is raising this a little to accom-
modate a future project; hook ramps were always
components, but not immediate needs; when staff
went back for the third time for Measure A funds to
close the Project, one of the strings hung on it
by Brisbane was for a vote of approval and the City
proceed to get the hook ramps completed because
they have always been thought of as part of the total
solution; staff is proceeding with the engineering on
lengthening of the on-ramp and continuing with Cal-
trans; staff wanted to make sure the Gateway touch
down would work and the engineering will proceed
with the drawings from the Gateway to the Marina,
so we will proceed with the components; there will
be a joint application for funding; staff will try
to develop more and more of the pieces and come
back to the Council once we have a better picture of
the phasing and money; Director of Public Works
Gibbs wants to get the flyover, within 60 days,
through Caltrans, but the hook ramps will take
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2. Oyster Point Road system - Continued.
3. Terrabay Plan review.
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longer; the traffic problems that Councilman
Datzman is concerned about will be mitigated with
the flyovers; there is opportunity to look at the
signage and the timing and a little greater enforce-
ment; etc.
Chief Planner Harnish related: last week we re-
ceived the application for Phase 2 and 3 for the
proposed project and modification to the Specific
Plan adopted in 1982; next is to initiate a consultant
for the EIR and it will focus on the changes that this
project over the issues analyzed in the past; we have
a contract planner, Allison Knapp, who has been
working in the Dept. for the last few weeks and will
work exclusively on Terrabay; the review and ap-
proval process will be done over the next nine to
twelve months; the project completion is scheduled
for April 1998; the EIR is taking a long time, but
because of the limited scope we hope we can process
it in a reasonable amount of time and the other
depts, are working on the application; the transpor-
tation and hook ramps have already been discussed;
the second issue is the prehistoric midden mounds
which have also been previously discussed; etc.
Mr. Dennis Breen, Sunchase, described the things
being modified in the Specific Plan: the hook ramp
and traffic are the major issues that drive the market
place; Phase 1 is moving along quickly and has
brought in nice housing; in Phase 2 we have
Terrabay Woods that is east and west, that is config-
ured for the single family detached homes; in
Terrabay Commons there is a condo setup and it
was extremely difficult to build and it went up like a
nine story structure; it is a combination duplex,
triplex and some single family detached and be-
comes one piece; in another section of Terrabay is
the commercial and the health spa and we don't
believe there is a market for that, so the whole area
here is what Sunstream Homes is going to build with
enough of a volume of homes that are large enough
homes to meet the market demands; the change in
residential is a lowering of density to 669 units from
745 units, and an increase in size to meet the market
demands of the builder; in the commercial section
we focused on those kinds of markets for commer-
cial uses to bring revenue to the City and reduce
the traffic demand.
Vice Mayor Mullin asked, if this is to compensate
for the lack of commercial but there is a commiser-
AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
~3. Terrabay Plan review.
1. Economic development update.
7/16/97
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ate rate reduction of revenue to the City. You said
your new specific plan is going to substitute com-
mercial to duplex and triplex.
Mr. Breen stated there were tennis courts in here
that were changed, but the rest stays commercial.
Mr. Larry Carter explained: the site plan and con-
figuration of the recreation center; they propose to
continue the parking spaces in back of the fire sta-
tion; there is a wind screen around the tennis courts;
the gymnasium; views from the interior meeting
rooms and offices; there is landscaping with ground
cover across the back; etc.
Discussion followed: there is so much wind up
there, it will be surprising if it can be blocked; it
will help the tennis courts, but nothing else; anyone
entering the building is greeted by a receptionist and
there is a lounge area adjacent for pickup and drop
offs; the gym has a collegiate size court with
retractable basketball courts so the area can be used
for other purposes; there is a Director's Office,
vending machines, telephones, weight room, lock-
ers, a commercial kitchen that can serve rooms 2
and 3; etc.
Discussion followed: the rooms can accommodate
60 people; the Developer wants to start construction
on the recreation center in October or November
and completion in September of next year; etc.
Coordinator of Economic & Community Develop-
ment Beyer highlighted his staff report to acquaint
Council on what he has been working on: time was
spent with commercial real estate brokers and devel-
opers exploring development opportunities for cli-
ents; staff met with over sixteen brokers during the
past four months; Council dealt with the freight
forwarding issues staff brought them; working on
the retail commercial use of the Macy's site to
keep it in commercial use as it now exists, instead of
reverting to high density residential use which was
the case when the BART agreement is executed; 349
Oyster Point Blvd. - Trammel Crow Co. met with
staff on this property for a freight forwarding facili-
ty, this site is two parcels removed from the Bay
West Cove development at Shearwater; staff indi-
cated that a freight forwarding use was not appro-
priate, Trammel Crow is now back with a 105,000
sq. ft. biotechnology project which has been ap-
AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
1. Economic development update.
7/16/97
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proved by the Planning Commission as an applica-
tion; he felt there will be more such applications in
the future; the Hines people, who acquired the
Homart holdings in Gateway two years ago, sold off
the undeveloped parcels quickly; staff received an
application for an Extended Stay of America hotel
on a 1 + acre site, plans included taking out most of
the landscaping on the Gateway/E. Grand Ave.
corner, staff saw the design and artwork and told
them it was unacceptable, they could not do it
and they dropped it; the view was expressed that the
front parcel should be developed in conjunction with
the old Marriott property and that is happening now;
soon Britannia acquired both parcels and has the
Fibrogen (Marriott) building under construction and
it is expected this fall that the second building for
Tulerik will commence construction; in a short time
there will be four biotech buildings at that corner;
staff stressed the importance of quality develop-
ment to the Hines people for their remaining proper-
ty in the Gateway, the talks have centered on Lot g9
which is the 14 acre undeveloped parcel at Gateway
Blvd. and Oyster Point Blvd., for there is a great
deal of interest from commercial real estate brokers
looking for sites for biotech buildings and several
wanted to build a series of two story buildings on
Lot #9; staff held firm on the need to build a struc-
ture higher than two or three stories to make a
statement and support the two high rise buildings on
the adjacent parcel; so Hines decided to develop this
parcel and one other large remaining undeveloped
parcel themselves and there is a plan for a phased
development including a six story office building;
Hines has prepared an amendment to the OPA that
will be coming to the Agency in August or Septem-
ber; the change will call for more development of
research, development and biotech space in the
Gateway than is now permitted and a commensurate
reduction in future office development; Britannia has
acquired the Pointe Grand Business Park and has
commitments to construct an additional 100,000 sq.
ft. on the corner of Harbor Way and East Grand if
the property can be acquired; staff has been working
with Mr. Philpott, present owner of the property, to
insure that if his property is acquired by Bri-
tannia, every effort will be made to relocate the
business within S.S.F.; future expansion of Harbor
Blvd. is a good potential for future development;
the market survey of the Macy's site, even though
the presentation was not desirable, the fact that the
study was not desirable, the fact that the study was
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._3.1. Economic development update.
7/16/97
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undertaken went a long way in the discussions with
Lincoln Properties and they came into the City with
a proposal that might include all retail use to the
site; the last thing they spent time on was the Bay
West Cove/Shearwater Project which is a project
that ebbs and flows which has been affected by other
issues than the site itself; those issues are the flyover
and the expansion of Oyster Point Blvd.; one use is
auto sales that would be a high intense use from the
trips generated; they are proposing two or three
hotels and those will come on line before Terrabay;
the ground breaking is in October assuming the
agreements are done on the hotels; need for the
Specific Plan, the EIR and a general plan amend-
ment; there will be a Home Depot or a big box use
at that time; etc.
Discussion followed: Councilman Datzman and the
Mayor met with Kaiser to solicit information for the
public on their future plans; the general plan consul-
tant will meet with our consultant and be asked to
indicate what there future expansion plans are; if
Kaiser sits on its haunches the areas of expansion
will be taken; staff had an inquiry for a retail use
for the driving range site; will the City have to give
the School District more or less pass through mon-
ey; the downtown plans; Vice Mayor Mullin had
heard there were asbestos problems with the Metro
Hotel, yet this document says it will be finished in
the summer of 1988; no, the restaurant can finish
after the rest of the hotel; the Vice Mayor would
like to see a Sam's or Tadish type restaurant; Mr.
Beyer is meeting next week with a realtor
who invests in downtowns and he will show him
what we have to offer; he approached EDS to do a
joint letter soliciting interest; do we want to encour-
age S.S.F. Scavengers to relocate here; they asked
staff, can we have assistance on sites available,
however, staff has not gone out and looked for sites
to say we want them to stay in the community; is
the site the Scavenger's are interested in, is that the
highest and best use of the site; it is, but it is not a
site we recommended for they found the site them-
selves and feel the Haskins site best suits their
needs; is it possible to reserve a site like the Travel
Lodge for three or four years until the market is
back into full service hotels; yes, but we cannot
force them to build a full size hotel, but we can
make whatever type of incentives to get that accom-
plished and make it attractive to do that; staff has
heard rumors that Travel Lodge is going to be raised
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7/16/97
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for they see it as an albatross; parking in
Willow Gardens which Mid-Peninsula is looking at;
a letter was received talking about the ordinance and
some of the issues and the people were surprised at
what was going on; the City spent a lot of time five
or six years ago with tenants and property owners,
but changing parking and other things would suggest
that logics would dictate talking with the owners and
Councilman Datzman questioned if that was part of
the plan; one solution is the nuisance abatement
ordinance and the other is an investment of redevel-
opment funds in Mid-Peninsula; yes there will be
discussions with the property owners, but staff is
still struggling with the decision; there are plans to
create a different environment, but we do not know
how best to achieve a design of the maximum num-
ber of parking spaces; Councilman Penna feels it
is a matter of parking rather than landscaping for it
needs management when picking up block areas and
try to get them to go into a management program
that provides quality housing for quality people; we
need to create better, softer interior and exterior to
get the better tenants from the community and be
able to maintain the family atmosphere and making
the project attractive; Councilman Datzman stated
the Councilman was talking about Plan A which was
done five or six years ago and it didn't work, and he
is looking forward to Plan B; so there would be a
20% tax allocation, however, the Vice Mayor does
not understand that for it is a valuable document and
he commended staff for their proactiveness; he
would like to have on-going status reports on the
progress rather than absorbing fifteen projects at
once; Councilman Yee asked the status on the
wrecking yard site; staff is exploring a trade with
Caltrans on their vacant lot for the other two lots are
available; the City is in the first position to be of-
fered the Caltrans lot; Councilman Yee asked if the
City required a clean site before this development
goes forward; only if it affects people, if they exca-
vate and have reason to believe it is polluted;
Mid-Peninsula is getting seven acres from
Greystone, going to do 37 below market units and
the City is going to participate to increase our low
income housing; there is a community event in Buri
Burl Park later this month; is the City going to
respond to the Lambertsons; staff began noticing
property owners affected by the nuisance abatement
ordinance, then noticed people atending the meet-
ings, but not the Lambertsons; staff invited the
Lambertsons yesterday morning and they chose not
AGENDA ACTION TAKEN /7'5
1. Economic development update.
o
Closed Session, pursuant to GC 54956.9, conference
with legal counsel on existing litigation - Johnson vs.
City of S.S.F.
RECALL TO ORDER:
ADJOURNMENT:
to attend, and have now brought in their attorneys;
due to the Statewide initiative the interest level has
dramatically increased in the last few weeks, and we
are having weekly conference calls and the Police
Chief has been apprised; we are in intensive discus-
sions to come to an agreement; Councilman Penna
asked, where is expansion of the Parking District in
the staff report; that is not a redevelopment project,
it is the Parking District's problem; but, that has an
effect on the type of development taking place and
along those lines where is staff; Director of Eco-
nomic & Community Development Van Duyn stated
he has a list of the property owners on the potential
expansion of the parking upgrade over to Baden and
Spruce, including the entire commercial district and
that was in connection to an acquisition; he is sug-
gesting a petition to solicit interest from the property
owners in expanding the District and go door to
door and once that is accomplished there is a lot of
legal hurdles, after which staff will come back and
ask the Council to expand the District; it has to be
lot by lot, 100% agreement; there was a cool recep-
tion to expanding the District to Linden; the prepa-
rations to prepare the property at Linden and Pine
did not work out when doing the Art Rise for we
could have gone out to the community; what staff
has to do before expanding the District is to show
parking facilities; Vice Mayor Mullin is concerned
with Hillside and School Street being used by drug
dealers, its being an eyesore and they are using it at
night when it was boarded up; etc.
Council entered a Closed Session at 8:38 p.m. to
discuss the item noticed.
Mayor Fernekes recalled the meeting to order at
9:14 p.m., all Council was present, no action was
taken and direction was given.
M/S Mullin/Penna - To adjourn the meeting.
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
Time of adjournment was 9:15 p.m.
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Barbara A. Battaya, Ci
City of South San Francisco
APPROVED.
Ca'/' of S~outh San Francisco
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