HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 1997-09-02Mayor Joseph A. Fernekes
Council:
James L. Datzman
Eugene R. Mullin
lohn R. Penna
gobert Yee
MINUTES
City Council
Municipal Services Building
Community Room
September 2, 1997
SPECIAL MEETING
CITY COUNCIL
OF THE
CITY OF SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO
SEPTEMBER 2, 1997
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, pursuant to Section 54956 of the Government Code of the State of California, that
the City Council of the City of South San Francisco will hold a Special Meeting on Tuesday, the 2nd day of September, at
11:45 a.m. in the City Council Conference Room, 400 Grand Avenue, South San Francisco, California.
Purpose of the meeting:
1. Consideration and adoption of a resolution approving agreement between BART and the City of South San
Francisco.
A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN BART AND THE CITY OF SOUTH
SAN FRANCISCO
2. Resolution approving the ALS Joint Powers Agreement.
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO'S PARTICIPATION IN
THE JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE THE COUNTY-WIDE ADVANCED LIFE
SUPPORT SERVICES
Dated: August 28, 1997
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
AGENDA
(Cassette No. 1)
City Clerk
City of South San Francisco
ACTION TAKEN
12:03 p.m. Mayor Fernekes presiding.
Council Present: Datzman, Mullin, Penna, Yee and
Fernekes.
Council Absent: None.
City Manager Wilson introduced Katharine Wellman
and stated she comes from San Mateo as a Deputy.
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
Consideration and adoption of a resolution approving
agreement between BART and the City of South San
Francisco.
A RESOLUTION APPROVING AN AGREEMENT
BETWEEN BART AND THE CITY OF SOUTH
SAN FRANCISCO
Resolution approving the ALS Joint Powers Agree-
ment. .5'0 q
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF
SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO'S PARTICIPATION IN
THE JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE
THE COUNTY-WIDE ADVANCED LIFE SUP
PORT SERVICES
Steve Mattas' firm acquired her and she will be our
principal Assistant City Attorney backing up Steve
Mattas.
He related: there were still problems with two
fundamental topics and he can not get to use the
term landscape, let alone address a linear park;
the other concern is how to respond to people mak-
ing complaints; the hours in the BART proposal
were unacceptable; the City Manager spoke to
BART Engineer Takas for he wanted an answer on
the response time on noise complaints, for a 24 hour
response time is nuts and he would not take that to
Council; etc.
Discussion followed: Councilman Penna asked what
prevented BART from doing whatever they want to
do, regardless of the contract; this is a holster with-
out a gun that BART doesn't need to have an agree-
ment; Councilman Yee feels if you don't get BART
to agree to your terms it will be difficult when the
time comes; he met Mr. Takas back in 1991 and
1992 and he would agree on whatever you said, but
when it gets down to the nitty gritty, like the land-
scape as they did in Colma, for he does not want
our landscape to be done as in Colma; the landscap-
ing in Colma looks terrible; the landscaping and the
pedestrian path to the school are very important, for
Councilman Yee will not be on the Council after
November and the Council is going to get the dust
phone calls and if you don't have a person to handle
the constituents - it is too late and the City will
spend its own money to deal with the problem;
Mayor Fernekes wants to see the sketch of the land-
scaping; he had a talk with one of the BART people
Friday evening - they lost or have forgotten what we
talked about years ago; we have been a team player
and every time we talk, he has to remind them; etc.
Acting Fire Chief Lagomarsino related: a task force
was formed two years ago to improve emergency
medical service delivery in San Mateo County; a
cost analysis was conducted of the chosen pub-
lic/private partnership option and a consultant was
engaged to validate the projections of available
revenue from the private provider, assist in devel-
opment of a JPA and a business plan, and negotiate
with the private ambulance provider on behalf of the
JPA; it has been determined that response time
requirements in the new county ambulance provider
contract will increase the overall system cost to the
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AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
2. Resolution - Continued.
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provider; the use of the fire departments in the
County to provide ALS first response would reduce
these costs, and the savings to the private provider
would be adequate to pay the fire departments for
these services; purpose of the Joint Powers
Agreement; because of the significant nature of
collectively entering into this activity an escape
clause has been built into the JPA and is intended to
provide member entitlements with the opportunity to
withdraw from membership once all of the financial
terms and operational requirements are known;
there will be a period of time for providers to put
their proposals together and negotiate regarding the
fire paramedics for service; after that the County
will take 30 days to review and analyze and prepare
a proposal to the Supervisors; the S.S.F. Fire Dept.
is unique to the rest of the County fire service, and
our final role in the JPA is uncertain at this time; in
addition to possible ALS engine companies, we have
the ability to provide potential value-added services
such as program administration, quality assurance,
continuing education, and possible back-up transport
services; although a final agreement has not been
reached on our role, the escape clause allows us to
continue to participate and if after the negotiation
process with the JPA and the private providers we
are not satisfied with the agreement or the revenue
distribution formula we may withdraw without pen-
alty; etc.
Jim Selvitella, Fire Captain, stated he is President of
and is representing the local union, the Department,
and the citizens.
He related: two years ago he went to the first meet-
ing with Fire Engineer Tony Rivera and Chris
Campagna, who are both union officers and moni-
tored the meetings for their progress; the other day
he had the opportunity to attend one of the final
meetings, with respect to the proposal, and to be
quite frank when they saw the proposal it went on
for a full page about S.S.F. and its role in the JPA
and he and others were kind of shocked that it was
laid out as it was; it was brought to their attention
that Andy Stark had quite a bit of correspondence
with the JPA and in talking to the Chief it was his
understanding there were many items to protect with
the citizens and the public safety; when they saw the
proposal going to the bidders they were surprised to
see that the full-time ambulance service was going to
be utilized by the contractors to serve surrounding
AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
Resolution - Continued.
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areas and they highlighted for the Council those
areas of concern; we are here with some of our con-
cerns and it is not a labor issue, but a level of ser-
vice and we feel very strongly for the surrounding
cities for this will improve their level of service, but
it will not improve ours; if anything it could lower
the level of service.
Discussion followed: Councilman Yee stated he met
with the Fire Chief a couple of months ago regard-
ing this particular subject matter and the Chief gave
him a review, but did not get very close to the issue;
the idea he got from the Fire Chief was that the
County as a whole will benefit from this; he
represents S.S.F. and are we giving up or are we
improving or what are we gaining from this; City
Manager Wilson stated that question cannot yet be
answered, for what you have is a JPA set forth in
structure and we are unique players; the question is
does it benefit or is it harmful and that is yet to be
determined; he recommended that the Council enter
into the agreement because it is going to improve
service in the County; the County is going out to
bid and we will determine if there is a role for
S.S.F. to play and the answer can be no, for it has
no value to the providers for they are doing nothing
but making money off of us; we are not being reim-
bursed for our new paramedics because we have a
full complement while other cities have to train
paramedics and are reimbursed; it was the position
of the Board Friday that the JPA shows we have 22
paramedic slots assigned and to employ the plan you
need 36 paramedics; we paid for our 22 paramedics
and the Board will only pay for the 14 additional
paramedics needed; Daly City needs 36 paramedics
and they don't have any and this will come out of
the pot, which did not set well with staff for some-
one has to pay for the 14 additional we need; that
will be determined in the contract prior to drop out;
they call it for the formula for the reimbursement
needs to be part of the agreement that you have the
chance to say yes or no; the Mayor stated the City
was always told we bring no value, yet we have no
reimbursement for the training of our paramedics;
the Vice Mayor, in reading the material, did not
see a lot of benefit for the City in the JPA and for
the same reason felt that the southern cities should
be in the Roundtable; it still seems to the Vice May-
or to be logical to stay at the table, for we can
always leave; Councilman Yee questioned if we
enter the JPA, at what point does it come back to
AGENDA ACTION TAKEN
2. Resolution - Continued.
City Manager Wilson Left the Meeting Due to a Commit-
:-ent for Jury Duty.
Council to say this is what we want you to approve;
it will be coming back for they will be meeting with
all of the entities and there will be another piece of
paper and at that time we can say we are not going
ahead; they are asking us to join the JPA prior to
that; Assistant City Attorney Wellman believes they
already have gone out for the RFP and they are
going to come up with a contract for services and
we can negotiate the term; Mayor Fernekes stated
this City is not a member of the negotiating team,
they are six elected members who negotiate from
that body the Mayor sits on; when it comes back to
the JPA cities will have some input for it has to
come back for approval; we can withdraw if we
don't accept this, but only after the JPA is formed;
we can negotiate our services with the potential
providers, we can transport and they give us money;
this is something this City does already through
mutual agreements and are suggesting to make that
available to outside services; this is not a confiden-
tial document even though it is so marked; the City
Manager said he is not interested in reducing servic-
es; and Councilman Datzman questioned how far we
extend ourselves by sending our ambulances outside
to assist the County; we have that agreement right
now in major disasters where our ambulances assist
the County on a daily operational where all other
ambulances were depleted; this agreement is not
going to upgrade our system; the players in this
agreement are not So. San Franciscans, they are
outsiders who have a great input on our resources;
this City has one vote on the governing body and we
do not have a member on the executive body;
Montara and Colma are still looking at the agree-
ment; Mayor Fernekes has concerns that the service
levels will drop and this is from sitting in the meet-
ings, and our service levels will drop any time the
ambulances leave our City - which is not aiding our
citizens; we can join the JPA and pull out later;
Councilman Penna has grave concerns about this,
because we are light years ahead of the other cities
in our services to our citizens and we are not a
major player in the way the contracts are drawn;
etc.
M/S Yee/Mullin - To adopt the Resolution.
RESOLUTION NO. 101-97
Assistant City Attorney Wellman stated the Motion
should also include adopting the first amendment.
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AGENDA
Resolution - Continued.
ADJOURNMENT:
ACTION TAKEN
Carried by majority voice vote, Councilman Penna
and Mayor Fernekes voted no.
M/S Mullin/Yee - To adjourn the meeting.
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
Time of adjournment was 1:04 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Barbara A. Battaya, City Clerk
City of South San Francisco
APPROVED.
losep)~/'A. Fe~nekes, Mayor
Citypf South/San Francisco
The entries of this Council meeting show the action taken by the City Council to dispose of an item. Oral communica-
tions, arguments and comments are recorded on tape. The tape and documents related to the items are on file in the
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