HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 1998-07-28 Mayor Eugene R. Mullin
Council:
James L. Datzman
Joseph A. Fernekes
~(aryl Matsumoto
'ohn R. Penna
S_PECIAL MEETING
CITY COUNCIL
OF THE
CITY OF SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO
JULY 28, 1998
MINUTES
City Council
Municipal Services Building
Community Room
July 28, 1998
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, pursuant to Section 54956 of the Government Code of the State of California, that
the City Council of the City of South San Francisco will hold a Special Meeting on Tuesday, the 28th day of July 1998, at
6:00 p.m. in the Municipal Services Building, Community Room, 33 Arroyo Drive, South San Francisco, California.
Purpose of the meeting is a study session for discussion:
Aircraft Noise
Dated: July 21, 1998
City Clerk
City of South San Francisco
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
Aircraft Noise
AGENDA
(Cassette No. 1)
ACTION TAKEN
6:04 p.m. Mayor Mullin presiding.
Council Present:
Council Absent:
Datzman, Matsumoto, Penna and
Mullin.
Fernekes.
City Clerk Battaya stated Councilman Fernekes is on
vacation.
Mayor Mullin stated this is a study session to look at
the noise from a variety of different items. David
Valkenaar will give preliminary remarks, and then
we will introduce Dr. Sanford Fidell, who works as
a consultant for the City, and is looking at some
goals we identified as a work program for short and
long term. The nature of the study session is infor-
mal where the consultant and the Director will share
their information and strategy. He is very pleased
by the number attending tonight's meeting, who
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have homes already insulated (ha, ha). As we prog-
ress he will invite comments at the conclusion of
each of the segments to get the audiences comments
relative to the presentation, etc.
He stated the Council has brought on board an
expert to work with us individually with the Airport
to bring more viable solutions. He stated that he is
the representative of the community Roundtable and
will be writing down your comments.
Program Manager Valkenaar related: short term
goals - obtain enough additional funding to complete
the homes currently covered by the 1983 NEM 65
CNEL footprint, obtain funding and approval for
expanding the ANIP to include all dwellings in SSF
between El Camino on the east, Skyline Blvd. on
the west, and the northerly city limits; intermediate
term - minimize the noise from and the number of
current aircraft overflights; long term - minimize the
noise from and the number of future aircraft over-
flights. He introduced Dr. Fidell as the consultant
hired by the City, and proceeded to describe his
background and expertise.
Dr. Fidell related: there is a basis in the City about
noise impacts and potential future impacts from a
new runway; the Airport is putting together a cam-
paign and there are other cities that could benefit
from the noise exposure and they may try to say this
City is in favor of a new runway; several months
ago he recommended a variety of initiatives to the
City to persuade the Airport that it is in their inter-
est to negotiate with the City and the guidance he
received back from the technical noise committee
was they wanted to focus on this and conduct a
social survey in the City to demonstrate that the
local government is concerned; those concerns pre-
date any further measure to persuade the Airport it
is in their benefit to obtain the City's goals;
given some of the other issues and the concern of
the government and City residents predates the other
measures and he wanted to establish base line data
on how the neighborhoods may change; the preva-
lence of annoyance to indicate that the concern of
the City predates this; that we want to establish
base line, how it is improving, to show the AirPort
that the measures are effective; people who live
outside of the noise exposure, 65 CNEL, are more
annoyed than those who live in it and that may or
may not change.
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Program Manager Valkenaar went through the sum-
mary of the recommended tasks: SFO flight track
analysis will generate overflight statistics in num-
bers, altitudes, times of day, operation types, run-
ways and aircraft types for S.S.F.; a social survey
of City residents for empirical documentation of the
prevalence of aircraft noise annoyance in S.S.F need
for interpretation of complaint data; City managed
aircraft noise complaint hot line to analyze, consoli-
date, and forward aircraft noise complaints, mediate
and follow up on responses from SFO; updated
noise contour analysis to compute independent set of
CNEL, DNL, Time Above and A-Max contours for
SFO; noise monitoring verification to audit noise
event to flight track matching performance, end-to-
end check on contouring assumptions; runway
need/orientation analysis to develop recommendation
for a City position on preferred orientation of poten-
tial additional runways(s) at SFO.
Mayor Mullin stated the Subcommittee who has
dealt with Dr. Fidell has included Councilwoman
Matsumoto, Councilman Penna and himself, and
currently the Subcommittee consists of he and Coun-
cilman Penna. He stated there have been many
meetings to analyze and come up with the work
plan, so this is a result of a series of meetings we
have been holding, culminating tonight with the
study session.
Dr. Fidel related: the standard analysis to airport
noise is how many people are annoyed, not casually,
but highly by the aircraft noise, and agencies that
deal with noise mitigation such as the FAA that
assist the Airport in dealing with the issues; the
Airport looks at a summary and plots how much
noise and how many people are annoyed and there is
a standard noise response relationship that the Feder-
al Government has put together all over the country,
and he feels it is important that we be put on that
curve; the City should do this request before you
find out the percentages of those closest to the Air-
port for many will be annoyed rather than those
living farther away; that needs to be done to give the
City a means to work from and monitor the Airport
noise.
Councilman Penna questioned: how is substantially
annoyed measure when it relates to others in other
communities and those close to the flight path; if
you have the same amount of people from Hillsbor-
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ough complaining of backdraft noise vs. the S.S.F.'s
noise of aircraft overhead - who has the most say.
Dr. Fidel stated Councilman Penna was talking
about politics. He continued: the Federal Govern-
ment uses CNEL measurements; he reiterated the
importance of the social survey of City residents and
taking the temperature of the community, put your-
self on the map and monitor a complaint line; the
Airport updates their own complaint service; op-
tional capabilities for aircraft noise complaint ser-
vice, for the Airport takes complaint messages, and
they come back later with postcards.
Discussion followed: Councilwoman Matsumoto
asked how the City can get answers sooner when it
takes a month and a half to get an answer; Airport
data exists for six months, however, if residents
don't get a response they stop calling; Dr. Fidell
stated, if it is worked out with the Airport the City
can get it from the FAA Tracon and the second way
is from the Airport within 72 hours; Chicago found
$300 million because the issue became intolerable,
so it can be done if the City has the time and stami-
na; Mayor Mullin stated the Council's concerns are
the areas outside the 1983 footprint and the larger
aspects of the expansion and design of the new run-
way; he is concerned as how our children will be
impacted in the future; is there a preferred direction
of runway, for the air traffic controllers their first
obligation is safety; Mayor Mullin invited people to
speak and stated there were 140 people in attendance
and asked that speakers take no longer than two
minutes each.
Mr. Robert Lorenzini, 327 Camaritas, stated he has
never complained, even though when cargo planes
go over he has to open the doors to let them
through, for the feeling is that their complaints go
down the drain.
Mr. Kiu-on Chu, 143 Crown Circle, stated he was
here with his howowners group who are in a void
because of the 1983 footprint, for at that time there
were no houses and no measurement. S.S.F. is
growing just like the Airport where flights will
double. In bad weather they have to use earphones
and the TV feathers out, yet 20' from his property
the neighbors windows are insulated.
Ms. Leona Gee, 102 Crown Circle, stated she is
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very near sighted and she can read the airplane
marking flying overhead. She urged the Council to
get the windows fixed and they will not bother the
Council anymore.
Mr. A1 Waters, 2266 Shannon Dr., stated he is from
the Westborough Homeowners Improvement Assn.
which has 887 homes between Shannon, Gellert to
Oakmont that are not covered in the insulation pro-
gram. Yet, they have the planes at 6:00 a.m. and
2:00 p.m., and 15 years ago a Tiger plane crashed
on Sweeny Ridge. He has been told what noise will
do to the psyche and the 65 CNEL mode is outdated
and new standards should be set.
Ms. Hilda Barradas, 779 Camaritas, stated she has
been going to Roundtable meetings because of a
monitor behind her house that was torn down. In
March the Council told us we were to ask to be
included in the Subcommittee. She asked where
Monitor 17 was placed after it was torn down.
Project Manager Valkenaar stated it was temporarily
placed, however, they plan to put it near the original
site.
Ms. Mary Ramsport, stated she lives in
Westborough and was told that in 1983 there was a
lot of noise in the patio and was told to contact the
Airport, Mr. Marvin Ellis, she made complaints and
received many nice letters and postcards saying her
complaints were duly noted.
Ms. Judy Corte stated S.S.F. consistently has the
highest noise complaints to the Airport. She wrote a
letter a month ago about the Station 17 Monitor, and
disagrees with the figures they are giving out on the
noise monitoring, which they say is less.
Discussion followed: Dr. Fidell's impartial analysis
may be more helpful; price could be from $25,000
to $75,000; Asia bound planes only use the Gap as
the runway; would the survey show the number of
take-offs and landings now vs. five years from now;
people living in a 64 CNEL area, living next door to
a house of 65 CNEL that has been insulated is quite
annoying; the FAA forces the City to use 65 CNEL
if we are to get their money; Minnesota after the
same considerations lowered the CNEL to 60; May-
or Mullin stated the concern is for areas outside the
1983 footprint and the larger aspects of Airport
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expansion and design of a new runway; he ques-
tioned, being outside the 1983 footprint - how are
our children going to be impacted; Vice Mayor
Datzman stated the Airport may consider it a re-
gional issue, and questioned how you can access
each cities impact; Councilmember Matsumoto said
Airport Director Martin stated S.S.F. is heavily
impacted; Dr. Fidell could do that, but it is not in
the scope of work; the new planes are heavier
and require a long runway; rumors about the
Alameda and Oakland Airports; estimated cost for
various levels of aircraft noise complaint service,
then the Airport would be aware someone else is
getting the complaints, has a log and the Airport
will know we are concerned and for six months that
can be a secretarial duty; the present cost is $12,000
to $14,000 per house; the estimated cost of the
social survey of City residents is on the order of
$53,000 for the initial preparation, conducting inter-
views, reducing and analyzing data and producing a
report; Councilmember Matsumoto does not really
believe the Airport cares if one side of the street is
insulated and the other is not and are only interested
in the footprint; the negotiations go back and forth
and comes down to communications; Dr. Fidell
stated the City must first play on their agenda not
the Airport's, and is a process that will take time;
the Airport does long range planning, knew they
would need the runway but talked about the terminal
but they are looking a decade into the future and
most cities don't have long term planning; it is
important to negotiate on the City's terms; the
agreement entered into with the Airport is that they
will provide $120 million to provide noise insulation
in the 1983 footprint, which is why the 1983 foot-
print is important and that is 65 CNEL; 90% of the
single family homes have singed up for the noise
insulation, plus condos and duplexes and a some
what lower percentage on the multi-family units who
signed up; City Manager Wilson stated the Subcom-
mittee had a meeting with the Airport Director and
Mr. Costa, and at that time David Valkenaar pro-
posed how to utilize the available funds and the
Director seemed to embrace the concept, and the
Director has directed his staff to investigate whether
or not we can accomplish all of the homes in that
footprint; the City had a block of homes that we
didn't think we could achieve, but once we are
assured we can get the funds and do the 1983 foot-
print; what is the amount to complete that; $4.5
million and they would be completed sometime in
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the year 2000; what is the cost tbr all dwellings
between El Camino on the east, Skyline Blvd. on
the west, and the northerly City limits whether 65
CNEL or not; about $15 million to $16 million, and
that is in addition to the $4 million; so, $20 million
to accomplished goal 1, and that would be an agree-
ment with the Airport; probably two agreements,
first the initial $4 million and the second is the
expanded agreement to go beyond the $4.5 million
to meet the needs of the homeowners - quality of
life, health and safety; City Manager suggested
proceed with this immediately - the social study
first, establish the hot line, then meet again with the
Airport; an unidentified woman named Vickey Lew-
is asked, what is the baseline, it takes how long and
what is the shelf life; it varies with the program for
we are trying to get the Airport's attention for we
are better off doing nothing than stating and not
completing the program; it is a five year process to
build the runway.
Mr. Herman Lopez, Clay Ave., stated he is not a
complainer, wants to congratulate the Mayor and
members of Council because it use to be only Coun-
cilman Yee who was cognizant. He thanked Dr.
Fidell for an excellent presentation and approved of
the hotline.
Mr. Ken Wall, 218 Bryce, commended the Council
for establishing a Subcommittee and hiring Dr.
Fidell. He stated staff has become very conversant
on this subject and he has received the windows.
He stated he does not always agree with Councilman
Penna, but on health and safety issues he does.
When the life style is compromised then the Airport
is in violation including the 1992 MOU. He stated
there is very little assurance they would concur in
the future. He feels everyone should consider them-
selves as political activists, and he is happy this
Council is much more active on this subject than
others. He feels they should challenge the Airport's
EIR even into Court. He feels it is important that
those affected by the topics should come to the
meetings.
Mr. Rick Dimitroff thanked the Council for helping
the citizens and feels that without the TV more
people would come to meetings. He was impressed
with Dr. Fidell, and is concerned that all that money
the Airport is spending will result in bringing in
more and bigger planes.
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Mr. J. B. Martin feels the Council is going in the
right direction, and Dr. Fidell's analysis is a better
objective than the windows.
Mr. Richard Korte, 755 Camaritas, stated the
Roundtable saying there is no noise shifting is a
policy, it should be of no note to Council.
Discussion followed: Council should get assump-
tions, create predictions, for noise measurements are
imperfect and you cannot parallel a truck backfire to
an airplane.
Mr. Gus Romeros, 841 Kipling Ave., feels the
Council should concentrate on getting planes to fly
away from here.
Discussion followed: pilots prefer taking off into
the prevailing winds; it is important to measure the
aircraft noise; we need standard information re-
quired by aircraft noise exposure modeling software
and a runway layout; radar flight tracking; Dr.
Fidell will work with the City through the Airport's
EIR; the runway needs orientation analysis; let the
Airport spend the money and get our consultant to
monitor the scope of work, review it with the City
and see that it is valid; we are not sending Dr.
Fidell to attack the Airport, but to supply us with
analysis; we hope the Airport is true to its word;
is there high priority to look at goals 1 and 2, and
whether 3 and 4 could adversely impact that; the
idea is not to make one exclusively to the other;
staff is trying to get the Airport Director to expand
it to all neighborhoods impacted and we will put our
full platform forward and try to achieve all of the
City's goals; Councilman Penna was elected in 1989
and watched the Airport growing, for they have a
ten year plan, they swore then they were never to be
going for a new landing field; he is coming from
health and safety and is looking at the new landing
field, and where it is laid out, and if it is laid
out properly and can take the large jets that are
coming over the City which is going to be part of
the EIR for the Airport expansion with a 40% in-
crease of flights; if that field can be realigned so it
takes off over the bay, we can reduce the flights and
he thinks we need to look not only of the complaints
and the people in the community, but the other view
point is totally relieving the health and safety that is
existing today in the event of a crash and it is a
mechanical failure to bring it down; and some day
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the chance of that happening is there; everything he
has read to date - that the pilots would like to see an
over water takeoff for the flights to the east; from
what he read, if runway 1 expanded, lengthened,
they would prefer that, but that would have an im-
pact on other cities; but, if the new airfield is con-
figured a few degrees further north and takes off
over Serra Point and it is long enough - can we do
the kind of analysis to help make an agreement; the
short answer is yes; then our priorities should be in
trying to get a new landing field that takes off over
the bay and alleviate flights over the City; that is
one likelihood in the Airport study, and Dr. Fidell
does not think the City should be the lead agency
conducting that, but you could have meaningful
input on that; Dr. Fidell would like to see where
they plan the runway; Councilman Penna stated he
would like to see that explored; Dr. Fidell stated,
you are asking how high is up and the piece of
string required; if the work takes a few hours
in looking over a contract, that is not much but,
who knows what is involved; Mayor Mullin directed
the Subcommittee to come back to Council with a
report.
M/S Penna/Datzman - To adjourn the meeting.
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
Time of adjournment was 8:33 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Barbara A. Battaya, City
City of South San Francisco
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