HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 1999-01-06 Mayor James L. Datzman
Council:
Joseph A. Fernekes
Karyl Matsumoto
.~£ugene R. Mullin
lohn R. Penna
MINUTES
City Council
Municipal Services Building
Community Room
January 6, 1999
SPECIAL MEETING
CITY COUNCIL
OF THE
CITY OF SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO
JANUARY 6, 1999
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, pursuant to Section 54956 of the Government Code of the State of
California, that the City Council of the City of South San Francisco will hold a Special Meeting on Wednesday, the
6th day of January 1999, at 6:00 p.m. in the City Council Conference Room, City Hall, 400 Grand Avenue, South
San Francisco, California.
Purpose of the meeting:
Discussion of filling the vacated position of City Clerk by appointment or calling a special election to fill the
Office.
Dated:
December 30, 1998
City CIg~, Deputy City Clerk
City of South San Francisco
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
AGENDA
(Cassette No. 1)
Discussion of filling the vacated position of City Clerk
by appointment or calling a special election.
ACTION TAKEN
6:07 p. m. Mayor Datzman presiding.
Council Present:
Council Absent:
Fernekes, Matsumoto, Mullin
and Penna.
None.
Mayor Datzman introduced the purpose of the
meeting, to discuss the vacated scat, and had the
City Manager begin.
City Manager Wilson stated, with the office being
vacated as of the first, the Council has two op-
tious one of them is to call a special election or
can appoint to fill the unexpired term of the
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.Ascussion of filling the vacated position of City Clerk
by appointment or calling a special election.
City Clerk. To fill you in with a little more detail
under the election laws, if you were to call a
special election the first date available would be
November. During the interim we would have to
necessarily fill those duties, Mary Bolt, is the
current Deputy City Clerk and it would probably
be our inclination during the interim period to
retain Mary in filling those duties and in, those in
which she is now, provide what ever support she
would need in the interim period. If we go that
route, there are a variety of methods we could
employe to use every process of noticing. We
have a series of options and latitude and hopeful-
ly while in this discussion, if you need any details
or have any questions of the law, Steve, is re-
searching it. About any of the procedures we
have to get a handle on dates and an understand-
ing of what the process might be. So, Mr. May-
or, ! am not sure how far you would like to go.
There are some additional items you should be
aware of in the staff report and that is prior to
the first of the year we have been looking at the
Clerk's Office and feel there are a number of
areas where improvements could occur or assis-
tance could be provided to increase the efficiency
of the office, one of which you may be already
aware of we have made a more inviting situation,
where we have been doing some remodeling, so
that the staff will have a nicer environment in
which to work; we also commenced a personnel
study. There was quite some discussion on and
we received a memo today from the prior City
Clerk raising some issues on the personnel sys-
tern, staff, and my offices approach in retaining
Jack Openhumer in the employee relation service
to examine transportation and pay studies and to
come back to this office with a recommendation
in these two areas. The report has yet to be
finalized. When it is received it will be shared
with the City Council, and you can see what that
report would call for. You will see irrespective of
what decision you make on the position we feel a
need to examine that office for technological
advancements that could add to its systems, and
how we can possibly approach the 21st century
full phase.
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-~iscussion of filling the vacated position of City Clerk
by appointment or calling a special election.
Mayor Datzman asked, "City Attorney Mattas if
he had anything to add. He replied, no most of
my information is set forth in the memo, and I
am here to answer any questions that Council
may have on them."
Mayor Datzman said, "in looking over the staff
report there is a tendency to just go fight to a
decision and solve the issue, however, I feel there
maybe some merit stepping back a little bit. One
of the issues we are talking about is process and
what process we could use to take us where we
need to go. One alternative I heard that is part
of the process is the special election and Novem-
ber is the earliest time. The other alternative I
heard was an appointment to the unexpired term,
in which case would be;"
City Attorney Mattas, "stated 2001."
City Manager stated, "two years nine months."
Mayor Datzman said, "the issue is what method
we will use and what timing is necessary. The
other kinds of issues just approached by the City
Manager and then I need to know the
recommendations. Would Council like to take
the approach to explore some of the issues first
and see if we are all talking about the same kind
of issues and concerns before we decide where we
might go?"
Councilman Mullin said to the Chair, "what is
the memo from June of 1992 that we just
received.
City Manager Wilson stated, "Mary at the re-
quest of Barbara made copies of that and distrib-
uted it."
Councilman Mullin stated, "just now, and why
not in advance, and what am looking at, I can
not read this and listen at the same time."
City Attorney Mattas stated, "I can summarize
this, it is an opinion of the former City Attorney
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Jiscussion of filling the vacated position of City Clerk
by appointment or calling a special election.
in which Mike looked into the issue of the City
Clerk's authority to appoint deputies and identi-
ties the appropriate statutory code
which does authorizes the City Clerk as an elect-
ed official the option to appoint deputies.
Councilman Mullin asked, "as level employees."
City Attorney Mattas stated, "correct, they can
actually take any character they do not neces-
sarily have to be at will. The City Clerk estab-
lishes the parameters. I have looked at that in
Section II and agree the Clerk does have the
authority to appoint the Deputy City Clerks in
their office, that does not mean that they are not
City Employees. It just means they have the
authority,
Councilman Mullin asked, "is this suggesting they
are exclusive of the city?
City Attorney Mattas stated, "Mike thinks there
is case law support dating back to 1982 to suggest
that they can be considered independent of other
city employees. It is of the opinion of the per-
sonnel attorneys of our firm and the issue has
been more recently looked at, that the employees
are really employees of the City in terms of their
relationship in exposure to workmen compen-
sation, liability, the city exposure to tort liability
and other actions of the employee. He further
stated; he offered the opinion to the City Clerk he
believes there is a structure for hiring and termi-
nating the Deputy City Clerks in their depart-
ment and can have sole responsibility different
than the City Manager has for all city employees,
except for the employees of my department and
that is legitimate due to the elected city official
status, but does not mean that they are not City
employees. It means your management structure
starts with the City Clerk similar to the fact that
if I were an inhouse City Attorney they would be
at will employees and serve only to the pleasure
of the inhouse City Attorney and it is very com-
mon."
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.Jiscussion of filling the vacated position of City Clerk
by appointment or calling a special election.
Councilman Mullin stated, "it is identical to em-
pioyees in the state legislature, for example who
are at will political appointees, but they are still
employees for the State with all retirement
PEPS., so, the reason I have this memo is what?"
City Manger Wilson stated, because the former
City Clerk requested that they be distributed to
you. It is a secondary issue as to why you are
here tonight. You are here tonight to decide on
the appointment of the or what to do with the
vacancy of the City Clerk. This issue will have to
be addressed when I come back to you with a
recommendation on how I would recommend you
treat the employees of that office short of the
Clerk."
Mayor Datzman stated, "so, that is what this
document is solely for who the City Clerk might
hire."
City Manager Wilson stated, "again this is a sec=
ondary issue. We are just being respectful to a
request made by Barbara."
Councilman Penna stated, "he was just notified
tonight that there was a meeting at 6:00 p.m. no
one asked him ahead of time, if it would be con-
venient or if he had anything else going on.
Typically that does not take place, but if he had
been asked he would have said he had another
meeting to attend tonight at 7:00 p.m. in Red-
wood City. He may have to leave early, but still
wishes to participate in this discussion. His sec-
ond comment, is since Barbara has announced
her retirement he has yet to have anyone call him
or any citizen of the community call him to indi-
cate their position one way or the other whether
we should appoint or elect. Now that there is a
vacancy, he would like to take the time and look
at the office, see what the duties and obligations
are. We may have an opportunity here, and he is
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AGENDA
ACTION TAKEN
.~iscussion of filling the vacated position of City Clerk
by appointment or calling a special election.
not sure if we should have an elected position
here or an appointed one or how the office should
be structured, so, he would like to hear more
about the possibilities that are here for us, and
have a little more time and hopefully not make a
decision tonight.
Councilman Mullin stated, "he had the Airport
Roundtable meeting to attend tonight at 7:00
p.m.. He would have preferred a 5:30 p.m. start
with all respect; he did not anticipate this taking
very long. As he understands, the City Manager
and City Attorneys memo, this is not an option
right now. We either appoint or we go for a spe-
cial election to eliminate this as an elective office
is not an option we have at the present time."
City Attorney Mattas stated, "it is not an option
item on the agenda for discussion tonight, as
Council is aware this is a general law city such as
if SSF were to change the City Clerks position
from elected to appointed, it would require a vote
by the people. The Council at some point in the
future and in time for the November election can
put a Council sponsored initiative on the ballot
which could ask the citizens of the City the ques-
tion as to whether or not they wanted an elected
or appointed position, but is not on the agenda
for tonight."
Councilman Penna wanted to clarify as far as the
appointment is concerned, we would ask or ad-
vertise in the newspaper for people who would be
interested in the position, is that correct.
Councilman Mullin stated, "it is one option, but
is not required."
Councilman Penna stated, "the other option is we
could just come out and appoint, or we could just
come out and say go to a special election."
City Attorney Mattas stated, you need to either
make the appointment by January 30, or the
special election by January 30.
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Councilman Penna wanted to clarify as far as the
appointment is concerned, we would ask or ad-
vertise in the newspaper for people who would be
interested in the position, is that correct.
Councilman Muilin stated, "it is one option, but
is not required."
Councilman Penna stated, "the other option is we
could just come out and appoint, or we could just
come out and say go to a special election."
City Attorney Mattas stated, you need to either
make the appointment by January 30, or the
special election by January 30.
Councilman Penna stated, "that tonight is the
first opportunity that Council has had as an
option as a body to speak to this, and I am anx-
ious to hear what everyone has to say."
Councilman Fernekes stated, he understood John
and Steve clarified it, if we do not appoint within
30 days of Barbara leaving the office it automati-
cally goes to an election. It is very clear and if
we want a process and we want to open it up and
advertise, we need to talk about this now and
allow our residents, if they wish to, to apply.
Waiting further lessens that time span, and forces
Council to react in less time. There is time now
if Council chooses to move ahead. If wishing to
appoint we need start the advertisement, they can
do that tonight. Council at any time up until that
30 days from now can chose to go special election.
Any individuals they wish to appoint need that
time frame to allow enough participation in the
process, as one Counciimember I would like to
see an open process and I would like to see our
residents participate, as at this point it is an elec-
tive office, that they have the ample time we had
as a Councilmember, that we put in the newspa-
per, allowing the residents to vie and go to the
interview process and get the best selection we
can providing we oppose to appoint an individual
and that is the process I would like to see.
Mayor Datzman stated, that is the alternative
that focuses on advertising to get a list of candi
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dates and to go through the interview process to
fill the unexpired term.
Councilman Fernekes stated, "that is my
suggestion."
Mayor Datzman stated, "he has something to say,
but would like to listen first."
Councilman Mullin stated, the fact there is almost
three years remaining in the term sways him to a
special election, in that context, let me ask one or
two question. I note the registrar of voters esti-
mates that one to two dollars per registered voter
in the City would be the cost of the special elec-
tion, however, that would be merged with the
general election in November of 1999, as he
understands it. In addition to Counciimembers
being elected, two Councilmembers this coming
November what other elections are there taking
place this up coming November, nothing, Federal,
County, State or School Board, so it is just Mu-
nicipal, so, it is two Councilmembers and City
Clerk at that time. The cost would be almost
negligible since there would be an election any-
way. We want to talk about a process that gives
everybody a chance to participate for the position
that gives everybody ten months from now to run
for more than half the term remaining. Would
this have been a shorter time, my inclination
would have been to appoint a person to fill it.
Actually the best reference would be an interim
appointment which the City Attorney does not
provide me, school, school, it could go either
way, just the fact there is a longer time remaining
would lead to a special election at a small cost to
the City since there will be a Council election at
the same time. Those are general thoughts on the
matter at this time I can not be persuaded with
coach and arguments to move off that. This is
where I stand at the present time.
Vice Mayor Matsumoto stated, she is for the ap-
pointment process. She likes what staff is trying
to do to bring this up to the 20th century, but
she would not like to see an election process
where someone would come into
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by appointment or calling a special election.
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an office that is not fairly functional, she is not
comfortable. She stated she is also inclined and
has been reading the paper and following other
offices, is not sure of the percentage some of the
cities are going from elected offices to appointed
offices and coming from the administrative sec-
tion of that, so much of this is for the public
record. I know it is elective, but my concern is if
it is appointed there is a process where skills and
everything are developed and from that because it
has so much to do with legal statements, the
financial statements, and public records for years
to come, I am inclined now to go to the appoint-
ment, where we can really take a look at the
office, it would make her comfort level better,
and this is a good opportunity.
Mayor Datzman stated,"yes if you have a situa-
tion where a city has an appointed clerk to quali-
ficatious where that position may he well differ-
ent, then in a city where you have an elected City
Clerk.
City Attorney stated, "clearly you would have job
specs just like you would have with any other city
employee. You may have certain requirements he
they job experience or in education they would be
handled like all other city employees and they
would generally report to the City Manager."
Mayor Datzman stated, for an elected position,
do we know what the minimum requirements
are?"
City Attorney stated, "the minimal requirements
are being 18 years of age, not convicted of certain
crimes, a resident of the city; a registered voter of
the city those are the statutory requirements
similar to that of a Councilmember."
Mayor Datzman asked "Vice Mayor Matsumoto if
she had anything further to add and she replied
no."
Mayor Datzman stated, "the concern he has, you
do not often get an opportunity to step back and
look at an office, that is an important office, and
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I am not sure it is really understood. I think a
lot of time things are taken for granted, we do
not know yet what kind of things could fall
through the cracks. I had enough of that occur
in the past where while there was some one pre-
forming you understood what they were doing it
was not till they left things started falling behind,
like "oh was that supposed to be done? We did
not know about that. It is my understanding that
it could be an error, but I do not think there is a
wealth and I asked this question directly of the
City Clerk if there were a lot of procedures and
policies in place and her response to that is she
just never had an opportunity. She was busy
doing. In a small office she did not have the
opportunity to develop policy and procedures. I
would think that in an office in todays age it is
important that we have some of those kinds of
kinds of products and tools. If they have not
occurred, it would be nice to have that in place,
everything from riling of critical documents to the
timing of the elections and ali procedures and all
the legal requirements associated; those are im-
portant criteria to be associated within that of-
rice. I would like to find out if we are in tune. If
we are doing what it is we could be doing, as well
as, from an electronic stand point that we could
do differently right or wrong, but there may be a
lot of things we could do differently better than
what we have done; that is not limited to this
office. It could occur any number of places at
any given point in time. I see an opportunity to
do this. The idea of what we have received,
memos saying that there is a problem in the way
in which people are hired, the type of benefits
that are receive, that information has emanated
directly from that office, so it is obvious that
there are some areas that require further explora-
tion. I am personally troubled of the idea of lets
plug it quickly, bring somebody in with that host
of issues as opposed to taking as much opportuni-
ty we can to step back and explore those things
and from a policy stand point as what Council
would like to see happen. That might require
bringing in somebody with professional expertise
and some time, so an investment in looking at
that office is giving us something objective, so
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from a policy stand point we could determine,
yes, this is the way we would like to see this
work, does that make sense or not?"
Councilman Mullin stated, "he had a question
about that. That issue not withstanding and it is
certainly part of the memo, none the less we still
have a deadline of 30 days while that process may
be on going, what do you intend to do, what is
your position with what we do with that office,
within that 30 day time frame? If we wait for
November Special Election, that gives us 10
months to go through the process that you are
talking about, but if we appoint, then that ap-
pointment is going to take place and precede all
of what you suggested should be done.
Mayor Datzman stated, "then we should advertise
and go out and interview a variety of people. Do
we appoint without advertising, both of those
could be done. The next question is do we ap-
point somebody that is a member of existing staff
with the criteria or the issues associated with
that, and it is possible to appoint existing staff?."
City Manager stated, "the only requirement
would be they are 18 years of age, a registered
voter, and reside within the city, that is the legal
minimum."
Councilman Penna "the office of City Clerk, is
the office that maintains the records, basically
that is it."
City Manager stated, "conducts elections and
makes sure the fair political practices forms are
processed, the Agendas for Council and does the
mechanical part of the agenda and my office sets
the agenda, and was Boards and Commissions
which have been shifted over to Human Resourc-
Mayor Datzman stated, "the City Clerk had a
description sent over to the web site, that he
believes is an accurate description of her duties:
Archivist of City records, maintain records, pre-
paring minutes,
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by appointment or calling a special election.
providing information to the public, researching
records, administering municipal elections, pro-
cessing initiative, recalls, referendums, also pro-
cesses conflict of interest statements for designat-
ed employees, Councilmembers and candidates
for Council seats and is a full time salaried posi-
tion and I guess that is it.
Councilman Penna stated, "what about the sala-
ry? We set a salary for Barbara, but that was
prior to us knowing that she was going to retire."
City Attorney Mattas stated, "the Council has full
budgetary authority over the City Clerk, so you
can establish whatever salary is appropriate for
that office and budgetary authority over the
City Manager Wilson stated, "with a key feature,
we have always had a manning table for all types
of personnel which was budgeting and requesting
budget.
Councilman Penna stated, "so, what I do not
really understand in this day and age even when
it took place, why is it an elected office?"
Councilman Mullin stated, "with all do respect,
the historical information is interesting, but I am
not sure that addresses our issue tonight and I
know you have to leave and I have to leave. I
would like to have an opportunity to vote on this
before I leave if we could."
Mayor Datzman stated, "in terms of exploring the
alternatives, one of the alternatives is to appoint a
staff member, for example are there cities where
the City Manager also has City Clerks duties, and
is that an option."
City Attorney stated, yes, to both stated
questions, and added that you can employee any
city employee to that position."
Councilman Penna stated, "we can appoint the
City Manager."
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by appointment or calling a special election.
City Attorney stated, "yes, and in fact the City of
Pacifica is an example."
Mayor Datzman stated, "would that give us the
opportunity to ?"
City Attorney Mattas stated, "let me remind you
that, yes it can be any city employee, but that
employee must be a registered voter of this city
and must be 18 years old and have residency in
the City of South San Francisco."
Councilman Fernekes stated, "you can still go
through a process in which you can invite the
community to participate, after the interview
process you still have the same option of appoint-
lng an employee of the City or calling a special
election. He believes we should offer the opportu-
nity to the community even though in evaluating
the position you still have the same options of
reviewing that position in that office whether you
appoint some one or not, am I correct or not, so
if we choose to appoint a resident of the city you
still have the same option at your hands, to re-
view the position, review the office and come up
with a recommendation, am I correct no matter
who you appoint?"
City Manager Wilson stated, "you never forego
your options before you make a final decision, it
is just the implications of your action."
Mayor Datzman stated, you mean your just inter-
viewing people and then saying you do no feel
they are qualified.
Councilman Fernekes stated, he personally be-
lieves we should open it up to the community I
believe no matter what person you choose, there
are going to be others who have applied that are
not going to succeed."
Councilman Penna stated," what you are saying
we can always advertise and ask for interviews
with the intent to of appointing."
Councilman Fernekes stated, "all your options are
still there."
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AGENDA
ACTION TAKEN
Oiscussion of filling the vacated position of City Clerk
by appointment or calling a special election.
Vice Mayor Matsumoto stated, and if we do not
find some one we like, then we can go for the
election.
Councilman Penna stated, "he believes the pro-
tess should start and he agrees, but do we have to
vote tonight?"
City Manger stated, you do not vote tonight to
make a decision. If you are going into the
advertising process we need to know immediately.
Mary did some research for me, once you make
your decision we have to get that information to
the newspaper four days lag time before it is
printed and I know at least one member of coun-
cil will be out of town for one week this month,
which if we give people adequate time to respond
because you know how difficult and people say
they never heard never saw, so we want to run it
a couple of times you are going to want a resume
which means you need to give us that instruction
to give you time it interview.
Mayor Datzman stated, "he already scheduled the
19th to the 26th."
Councilman Penna stated, "can we wait until the
Council meeting next week to make a decision?"
City Manager answered, "no let me recommend
to you, you need to make a decision tonight to
direct us to proceed to advertise and even with
the advertising on the logistics we looked at the
fiscal year in all likelihood you will have to have
a special meeting in the last month, meant in the
last week of the month at which time you inter-
view assuming you want to give the community
adequate time to prepare and submit and then it
compresses your time, you will probably have to
interview and make your decision the same night.
Vice Mayor Matsumoto stated, "because if we
appoint it is necessary by the end of the month or
otherwise we go into a special election.
City Manager stated, "we can handle the
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mechanics for you, but I would request you keep
a date open after the last Council meeting, maybe
the last Thursday afterward."
Mayor Datzman stated, "then we do not need a
formal motion."
Councilman Mullin stated, "he wanted to be on
record.n
City Attorney recommend, "you have a formal
motion and City Manger recommend a formal
consensus on Council to consider an appointive
process. You are going to advertise that and there
should be a motion on the floor directing staff to
advertise the vacancy of the position to solicit
resumes and applications and that would be the
only motion you need to make tonight, no further
action necessary if that is the desire of the Coun-
cil."
Councilman Fernekes made a motion to proceed
with advertisement for appointment, is that cor-
rect.
City Manager stated, "I will clean it up after you
make that decision."
Mayor Datzman stated, "there is a motion on the
floor for appointment. I meant advertising and
interview, is there a second?
Vice Mayor Matsumoto stated, second.
Mayor Datzman stated, on the question.
Councilman Mullin stated, "I am on the question,
I vote against this because I have not heard per-
suasive argument against going into a special elec-
tion, so my vote is no, I will show up for the
interview that is the genesis of my no vote."
City Attorney stated, "just to clarify the motion is
to direct staff to advertise the vacancy that exists
in the City Clerk's Office to receive resumes and
applications and so there is no further action to
be taken."
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ACTION T A _K __E __N
Discussion of filling the vacated position of City Clerk
by appointment or calling a special election.
~ECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Mary Lyr~d//Bolt, Deputy City Clerk
City of South San Francisco
Mayor Datzman stated, "we have a clear motion
all in favor Aye-Fernekes, Datzman, Matsumoto.
Penna did not say. Mullin said, no."
City Manager stated, "there maybe a question
raised about compensation he thought John raised
that issue. Shall we put in the current salary? I
will not put it in the advertisement although you
may want to put it in as it is a very attractive
salary and may attract a larger number of peo-
ple.
Councilman Mullin suggested "DOQ, and stated
no, that was salary at the end of a career.
Vice Mayor Matsumoto added, **no, Barbara
earned that after many years, so they suggested
DOQ (Depends On Qualifications).**
Mayor Datzman stated, "motion to adjourn
Penna/Mullin.
Adjournment was 6:45 p.m.
APPROVED
Jan~L. Datzman, May~'~
Citff~ South San Franci~
The entries of this Council meeting show the action
taken communications, arguments and comments are
recorded on tape are on file in the Office of the City
Clerk and are available for inspection, review and
copying.
by the City Council to dispose of an item. Oral
on tape. The tape and douments related to the
items are on file in the Office of the City C
lerk and are available for inspection, review and
copying.
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