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M I NUT E S
March 24,
69
the regular
Commiss
the South
co
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8:00 P..M..
DATE:
March 24, 1969
PLACE:
il Chambers, City
ornia
, South
is co,
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chairman
, Raffaelli,
, Commiss Gardner,
ati, Campredon, Bob t
MEMBERS ABSENT:
None
ALSO PRESENT:
City Planner and
Francisco Planning
s
Assistant
G.. I..
een
Building Ins
tz
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEET
Minutes of the
ing Commission Meet
of March 10,
69
sioner Rosati moved that
the Francisco
approved; seconded by Commiss
following roll call vote:
the regular rneet-
sion of 10,
Zlatunich;
Zlatunich, Gardner, Lazzari,
and Boblitt
Ii, Rosati,
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NOES:
ABSENT: None
ANNOUNCEMENT CONCERNING TAPE
OF MEETING
announced that this
Comrniss would
to corne before
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Mr.. s read an ra-department memorandum, dated
March 21, 1969, :,Erom Melvyn Seid, R. S.., Dist Sanitarian,
North County Hea1Lhh Center of San Mateo County, Agent for the
City South Satt. Francisco, of 1024 Mission Road, South San
Francisco, California, to wit:
"Persons or pe.rson holding business license for the above
address shalllbe responsible for maintaining a str t
sanitation surveillance and maintenance program the
environs of the place of operation. It is suggested
that an adequ~te number of suitable leakproof, fly tight
trash contain~rs with self-closing lids be provided and
placed in the I parking lot.
All establish~ents preparing, serving, offering for sale
or giving away any article of food or beverage to the public
must obtain alpermit from this department.. Food establish-
ments must co~ply with the California Health and Safety Code,
the Uniform B*ilding Code, and the requirements
department prior to the issuance of a permit.. It
suggested that plans be submitted to this department for
our revie~.., and recommendations.. n
Mr.. Pass then told the Chairman that these were all the
reports and correspondence received till that moment..
Present for the applicants were both principals, Mrs.. Eileen
Spingola and Henry Parvin, of 138 Cherry Avenue, South San
Francisco. Both Mr.. Parvin and Mrs.. Spingola recognized
themselves as the principal applicants and stated they would
be glad to answer any and all questions the Commission might
have. Mrs. Spingola further stated she did not understand how
the City could have tolerated the bowling alley when as many
police problems occurred as has been claimed.. Her party
offered tonight a form of wholesome entertainment for teen-
agers for which no other provisions for leisure time use was
available.. was something far better than drugs.. The pro-
posed hall had firewalls and a sprinkler system.. She did not
understand why the building which had served as a bowling
place would not be feasible for another form of entertainment..
Mr.. Donald J.. Grimes l23 Francisco Drive,
cisco, stated there was a tremendous need these f
entertainment for those under 21 years of age and
stage of 13 to of age. He did not that
was a real problem. Nearby were City parking lots and at
night most business establishments were closed, leaving plenty
of spaces available. had li~ed 30 years in the City,
had been a teenager in this to~...rn and knew, since Magnol
Center did not do the job a tremendous need remained
for proper entertainment the young between 18
age.
Mrs.. Leslie
the P.T..
Spingola.
that such
stated she had had a
manner had become
She had to appreciate
an enterprise would be in good hands
the kids be given a break which they
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Mr. Robert Shreve, Jr. of 6 Francisco Drive stated that he
played in a Rock band on Friday and Saturday nights. There
were a lot of young kids in South San Francisco who needed
such entertainment.. He had played in the school bands and
had generally noticed that grownups and adults had often a
very wrong impression of Rock music. Classical mus was
beautiful but many adults had a kind of false cultural hangup
about it..
Mr.. Michael Ferko of l16 Justin Avenue, San Francisco, a
teacher at Alta Lorna Jr. High School stated that recent surveys
had shown that approximately 40% of students in Junior and
Senior high schools had used drugs or had become familiar
with it.. His schools had already had 4 expmmsions due to
drugs this year.. Music is something that binds kids together,
dancing is an effect of music..
Mr.. M.. Plumber of Pacifica stated that as a president of organ
musicians he asked for serious consideration of the application
at hand.. Many of his members were promising young musicians
and excellent players.. There were no other facilities available..
Mrs.. Henry F.. Hainley of ll8 Cherry Avenue, South San Francisco
recommended the City for the work and investigation done on
behalf of this request.. She knew by experience that City
officials take their task seriously and had duly and knowledge-
ably reported on the involved matters.. This was their task and
she acknowledged a job well done.. But she was also sure that
the applicants, for whom she had a high regard, would do all
in their power to comply with the requirements, and they would
make sure that the place was cleanly run.. It was far better
than having the kids leaving town and go to San Francisco..
Kids like each others' companionship and like to do things to-
gether.. Parking could be solved.. The City should also consider
the tax angle and the revenues coming from such an enterprise..
Mr. John O'Hara, Jr.. of Arroyo Drive stated he had great respect
for Mrs.. Spingola and was very sure. she would run a clean place..
He wanted to go on record that he was an advocate for approval
of the request..
Mr.. James E.. Duncan of 629 Myrtle Avenue, South San Francisco,
stated that there was a need for such a place.. Comparing park-
ing to the past Tanforan situation, he thought that at
they had arrived at a far better solution.. He was sure
applicants, for whom he held a high regard, wanted only a clean
place.. Looking at the environs he knew there was plenty of
parking..
Mr.. Michael Grimes, Jr.. of 123 Francisco Drive, explained much
about Fillmore .West in San Francisco. He had been there
waited many hours in long lines to get in and waited
to come close enough to hear the music. The answer was
approving the applicat so that the kids of South San
cisco would have their own place to go to~
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Mr. Edwards of 131 Avenue stated
isco had impressed him he f t came to
as a Bar Town. He did not think that the answer to k
bars.. This was "adult entertainmentfT.. The enterta
asked for tonight was for minors.. With the adjacent
trial area and municipal parking lots he saw that there was
suff parking available.. All the kids had now were some
church groups, but they could not provide the total need of
the kind of entertainment these kids wanted and needed..
Mr.. Wesley Starr of Pacifica stated that the kids had no
to go.. He had been involved with organizing the project and
could vouch both applicants.. The only opportunity
was San Francisco, and probably by November, Fillmore
would close, since the property was bought up by a
hotel chain.
Miss Winter of 137 Cherry Avenue, South San Francisco, stat
she was all it and that people of her age group needed
this fac very badly..
Since at this time no one else came forward favor
requested use permit, Chairman Boblitt announced that those
opposing the request would have an opportunity to state such,
and that the proponents would have a later opportunity for
rebuttal..
Mr.. John Mart of 285 Village Way, South San Francisco
whose residence is directly adjacent to the subject
the Bayshore Bowl, stated that a pet ion had been c
the past few days to state the opposition to the proposed
project by 57 residents of the South City Village area and
some concerned residents of South San Francisco at other loca-
tions. He offered the petition to the Secretary for filing
into the record.. Mr.. Pass read the text of said pet into
record, to wit:
nWe, the undersigned summit this petition to the Planning
Commission of the City of South San Francisco,
California, to protest the application of
Eileen Spingola to use the building at 1
in the M...l-H District as a recreat
retail complex."
Mr. Pass further stated he counted
signed names and addresses of the pet ioners
pet ion was to be filed with other documents
records.
Mr.. Walter R.. Truj
whose property 0
he would not recommend
own kids.. He had four
think such as
Village Way,
to the subject
place of
teen-age children,
Imore West and
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places entertainment.. A crowd attitude and other
t approaches to entertainment came out this form
entertainment. He was all for kids having fun and dancing
to good music and making mus themselves, but he would
prefer churches and other non-profit organizations sponsor
such events where responsible supervision could be guaranteed.
If this new form of land use were to be established he saw
a long time coming of many police problems, difficulties for
the City and the people of his community.
A tenant of 442 Baden Avenue, South San Francisco, stated
that parking is already a tremendous problem in his neighbor-
hood. An extra lOOO to 1800 people would bring at least
another 700 cars down to this already glutted area and be
something of a disaster. By experience everyone knew that
nobody would walk a foot more when he could get his car as
close as possible to his destination, and often there would
be no concern if would block traffic, driveway and hinder
neighb9rs to enjoy the freedom coming with enjoyment of the
own property. Moreover, such an establishment was tried
San Bruno and had grandiosely failed. After two months that
place had been closed. To try it out here would sooner or
later mean failure here too, but by then the use would be
established by precedent and anyone else could come back
within six months after failure and try it again without a
use permit. Approving this application would mean a long
time of trouble ahead. When the place was used for bowling
fewer people were there and only 25% them were teenagers.
Past police records will show how much trouble this far
fewer number of teenagers with three times more adults
around had caused. He was convinced that the subject premises
were the wrong place for the intended use and asked the
Planning Commission to deny the application on these grounds
as given and on all the other grounds members of the City's
staff have brought up.
Mr. Emory R. Blackmore of 275 Village Way, South San
cisco, stated as follows: His bedroom window was only 20
yards away from the subject lands. In the past when there
was the bowling alley he had experienced at n
early into the next day all kinds of noise, espec
cars schreeching through the alleys and streets'wi.th
muffler noises.. Often he had called the police who had
up drunken teenagers who had to lay down.next to the
to sober up. Fights and disturbances had
Three suicide attempts had made during these
which two were successful. on an original
easement to the former al closed
had been abandoned by the behalf
egress to and from the TIlis easement
used by the ut s kids came
through ,climbing trespass
closed easement lands. When the bowling
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owner, Mr. Stan , stated full
would be given to the neighbors. But in spite
promises his community had suffered many a troublesome
and night. Hundreds of calls had come from his community
the police station. Moreover, parking was already inadequate
and the claims by the proponents were merely unrealist ,
almost ridiculous. He was for kids and remembered his
own teenage years, but the former bowling alley was certainly
the wrong place to start such a huge and troubl~-causing
enterprise.. He had learned that the proposed use was illegal
under City ordinance, and objected to having such a use again
on said lands, warming of the precedent that might be set by
attaching such a use to these premises..
At this time Chairman Boblitt released the floor to the pro-
ponents for rebuttal, after which the opponent could present
a rebuttal return.
The proponents hereupon offered a petition to be filed on
record... The Secretary received and accepted the petition and
read into the record, to wit:
ttWe, the undersigned, do sincerely believe that the
proposed Bayshore Rock Complex is not only a great idea
by a great humanitarian group, but also is a necessity
to the teenagers of South City. If this proposal is denied
it will further prove the t ity of our ent
ment system... We, the signers this,. are from walks
of life; housewives, teachers, students, businessmen,
cI> We will suppo rt the project entire H
Mr. Pass further announced
placed on record, and that
signators, names
said petit had been
had been signed by 100
Chairman Bobl t ordered both petit
to be placed on
offered
Mrs.. James E", Duncan of 629 Myrtle Avenue, South San co,
asked Commiss to g it a try...
Mr", De of Daly City realized that there were
he they could be solved.. He saw a need
and asked for it on a trial basis..
Mr. Emory R... Blackmore,
would please explain how
way to and from
trial bas would
use
person move
benefit of a use permit.. time
people of his community and
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There being no one
request, Chairman Bob
matter closed, and s
e further to speak or against the
t declared the pub1 hear on the
ited comments from the Commrhssioners..
Commissioner Campredon asked Mr. Grmmes about the at
the Brentwood Bowl. Mr. Grimes stated there was some,
from sufficient.
Commissioner Zlatunich stated that last Summer Pacifica had
had a tremendous police problem at a similar enterprise.. He
asked }vIr", to explain about this.
Mr. Parvin stated that subject place
and later opened again. had been too
kids. The police problems had been solved.
very reason why they sought a larger place.
Commissioner Rosati told Mr. Parvin that the uses as proposed
in the applicant's letter of March 4, 1969, under 4 thru l5
were all permitted uses, even without a use permit, but
first 3 needed a use permit, and a dance hall was
within 200 feet from any residential district according to
Ordinance No.. 565.. He further asked if the dance permit
could be deleted, so the other uses could find further con-
sideration..
Mr. Parvin stated that dancing was the magnet the other
uses, and although not the main entertainment, it was such a
vital part of the whole setup that deletion of was impos-
sible", The enterprise would be run by minors, with adult
advisors.. There were also the charitable causes which would
benefit from this enterprise", As far as parking was concerned,
many would be brought in from allover the Bay Area busses,
which would park somewhere else.. The whole project
teach kids to run a business and how to perform", Plenty of
good sponsors were behind this..
Commissioner Lazzari asked about the time that the place would
be open.
Mr", Parvin stated this would be open 7 days a week, set
times for certain facilities. Thursday to Saturday nights t
l2:30 a",m. the dances would be held. Business would be
only between 9-6 on weekdays", There would be special organ
concert nights, pract nights, and different hours a
great variety of performing uses. Last Sunday, March
he had taken a sound test a full band inside, and
way could these sounds be heard off premises.
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no
Commissioner Zlatunich considered dancing
uses 4 thru 15 could be established without a
to leave the out to
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ing was a
,since would be
as a magnet..
Commiss Gardner explained that no
of the Commission would come out, both
to appeal the outcome to the City
Actually
main bus
was not
s,
Chairman Boblitt stated Mr. Parvin s
but then also spoke about bringing many
areas. Mr. Parvin then stated that all
without art boundaries. Mr.
intended to survey private industry
neighborhood to use their parking at t
business..
about 8UR children,
from
are ours
the immediate
they were c
Commiss Rosati stated the
months uses of the property
allowed to be established and now came
that could not established under law..
places available?
had searched for l8
where many uses are
with one of few
Were there no
Mr. Parvin stated there were none..
was too small anyhow.. He still
to establish a bowling alley
allowed. Mr.. Pass explained
just because the trouble at this very
hand as mentioned testimony from
Here was the very cause why the City
wise to forbid the establishment of any
a residential district.. No use
could be given here.. would take
Counc to change law, which he
subject ordinance was still very
Mr. Parvin stated the place about
City every year.. Mr.. Pass stated that
City, the remainder went partly to
thirds of assessment went to
Sunnyvale, but
was sible
dancing had
565 had come
had gotten out
living
had deemed
hall
or var
act by
was unlikely, since
000 taxes to
about 10% went to
, and two
distr
There being no further comments
Chairman Boblitt declared the
motion on the matter and a
moved, seconded by
use permit request Henry
filed under UP-ll2, the
tion complex
parking variance 300 to lSO
at No. 1 South Avenue,
was sed
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glad to
have III
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to speak for
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comments
Commiss
business was
was
III Freese
Mr.
building
rental
s
being no further comments by
sioners, Chairman Boblitt decla.red
and asked for a motion on the matter
other Cornmis-
c
till
Commissioner moved seconded by
to adopt findings City
the applicat as requested,
the requirements as set by the
Building Ins or and all other
matter..
The motion was
sed by the following
1 vote:
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Gardner, Lazzari,
9 Boblitt
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NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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was 1v:fr.
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Mr.. Nash
& Forbes
stated he
Commiss.ion
Nash,
, San ,
Mr", Robert
isco, the
glad to answer
and so would
Ze
applicant.. He
and all questions the
Mr. Zeiback.
There being no one else further to s
the request, Chairman Bohl t
this matter ed, and solicited
s ioners .
for or agsinst
public hear
from the
on
Commissioner Gardner asked Mr. Nash
P. G. & E easement.
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Mr. Nash stated that a ten-
side of the property line
creating a total of a 15
intended this was considered sufficient
company the usual 20-foot easement
the 10
would be on one
the other side,
the
ut
not necessary..
being no further comments by any
sioners, Chairman Boblitt declared the
and asked for a motion on the matter
thereon..
the other Commis-
ioning closed
a roll call
Commissioner Zlatunihh moved, seconded
Campredon, adopt the findings of the
and to approve the application as
compliance with the requirements as set
the Director of Public Works, the Chief
all City agencies having authority
motion was passed by the following
Commissioner
Planning Off
, however
the City
,
pector,
such matters..
vote:
: Zlatunich, Gardner,
Campredon, Boblitt
ati,
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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Mr. Pass explained the text the
Design Proposals and Standards. He
step the Commission's efforts to
ment of the City's Adopted General Plan
Element. He respectfully recommended
Commission adopt the prepared,
thereby recommend to the City
the adopt of the submitted Des
of the Housing Element.. There being no
for or ggainst the proposed Proposals
Boblitt declared the public
closed and solicited comments from the
this was
the proposed
its Housing
the
resolut
and
further to speak
Standards,
on this matter
sioners.
There being no further comments by any
sioners, Chairman Boblitt declared the
asked a ion on the matter
thereon, also announcing that in the
passed, would No. 2
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RmI~lJut'ielf
OF SAN
COUNCIL
AND STANDARDS OF THE PROPOSED
THE '8 GENERAL PLAN ADOPTED.
the
; and,
special
at least 10 days
WHEREAS,
co, meet
1969,conducted a
Propos and
f s adopt ed
. IlHE REAS not of
Journal
t lO days prior to
proposed Design
Brisbane, City,
Mateo, .
the State
jI the ate
\.vHEREAS, Planning Commiss
said hearing transmitted
Propos Standards to the cities
Pacifica, and Bruno, and the
Planning Off ,the County
Department of Housing and Community
Highways, the soc ion
Planning Committee of the
portation udy
Dew:elopment Commission, the
the City County of San
it Authority, the ifornia
Francisco Housing Authority,
Mateo; and,
found that
would promote
of this
s,
WHEREAS, the Commiss
posals and Standards
development s
and,
ign
growth
and its
Standards
improvement
s
,
Revampme.nt to
Ge.neral Object
t Local
"Survey and
November' 1968
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WHEREAS,
Des
a base upon
element, within
t
o
could found
and meaning
NOW" that
the San co
Counc thereof that the proposed Des
dards to HOllS Element
Planning Comrniss
the
Proposals
the IS
. 2101 was adopted by the
lowing
vote:
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Carnpre.don,
.,
, Rosati,
NOES: None
ABSENT: None.
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1.. A need
this
proper
2.. The former
and, due to
permissible..
3.. The City's
City's recent
be
Bayshore Bowl was Ilnot
closeness to a resident
appropriate
district, not
Park and Recreat
est ished and
an immediate attack
sion and/or
Commiss
the. shown
4..
any
problems..
and
to the
from
the past
ies and not
7.. bodies, as Counc ,
approached and 1 cooperat in and
efforts made by anyone should be apprec
cerned.
all
con-
8..
was
proposed site, not the
that was
d cuss ion ted about 30 minutes
parties, such as City's Commiss
as proponents and opponents spoke in
friendly manner..
as we
We Ifare t
matters of
Boblitt announced
Francisco
1969 at 8:00 p..m..
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