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July 8, 1975
~lINUTES
of the regular meeting of the South San Francisco Planning Commission
TIME: 8:00 P.M.
DA T E : JUL.Y 8 ~ 1975
PLACE: LITTLE THEATER, EL CAMINO HIGH SCHOOL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Commissioners Lazzari, Mullin, Raffaelli, Teglia and
Chairman Hale
MEMBERS AB~ENT: Vice-Chairman Slade
ALSO PRESENT:
City Planner
David C. Hale
Director of Public Services
Frank J. Addiego
Zoning Administrator
City Engineer
William Costanzo
Robert Yee
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
Minutes of the Planning Commission meeting of June 24, 1975
Commissioner Lazzari moved that the minutes of the regular meeting of the
South San Franci sco Pl anni ng Commi ss i on of June 24, 1975, beappr'oved.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Mullin and was passed by the follow-
ing roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Lazzari, Mullin, Teglia and
Chairman Hale
NOES: None
ABSENT: Vice-Chairman Slade
ABSTAINED: Commissioners Mathewson and Raffaelli
ANNOUNCEMENT CONCERNING TAPE RECORDING OF MEETING
Chairman Hale announced that this meeting of the South San Francisco Planning
Commission would be recorded on tape, but that anyone who wished to come
before the Commission to be heard, but who objected to having his or her
voice recorded in this manner, could request the Chairman to order the
tape recorder turned "off" for the duration of the time that he or she is
speaking or is heard.
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SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO SHOPPING CENTER
SUTTER HILL, LTD.
This public hearing consisted of four separate matters as follows:
1. Environmental Impact Report
2. Amendment to the General Plan, changing the designation from
Medium-High Density Residential to Neighborhood Commercial.
3. Rezoning from the "UII Unclassified District to the "C-l"
Neighborhood Commercial District.
4. Use Permit to permit the development of the proposed com-
mercial development.
Secretary Hale presented the staff report, noting that a staff recommendation
on the proposal would not be prepared until after the public hearing is con-
ducted. He also noted to the Commission that the New Southern Restaurant
facility owner is also an applicant in this matter.
Proponents: Mr. John de Benedetti, representing Sutter Hill, Ltd.
15140 Pepper Lane
Saratoga, CA
Mr. John Gatto, representing Jas. W. Fou~'& Associates, Architects
10903 Wilkinson Avenue
Cupertino, CA
Mr. Jack Greenspan, Traffic Engineer
8$~7 Manitoba
Playa del Rey, CA
Mr. John Thompson, President, Marketing Research Consultants
244 Live Oak Lane
Los Altos, CA
~r. James T. Robinson, representing Our Redeemer1s Lutheran Church
205 Westview Drive, SSF
Opponents:
Helen Hoopes
825 W. Orange Avenue, SSF
Mr. Fred Hernandez
425 Fairway Drive, SSF
Mr. Art Viat
808 West Orange Avenue, SSF
Mr. James E. O'Day
849 West Orange Avenue, SSF
Mr. William Peterson
849 West Orange Avenue, SSF
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Sutter Hill, cont1d
Mr. Surendra Amin
628cMadison Avenue
Redwood City, CA
Mary Williams
7 Hillcrest, SSF
V. Minnick
107 Knoll Circle, SSF
Rose Minnick
107 Knoll Circle, SSF
Ma ri e Koerner
849 West Orange, #3026, SSF
F. Allan Weinstein
332 Susie Way, SSF
Earl F. Martinelli
709 Southwood Drive, SSF
Donna Catlett
811 West Orange Avenue, SSF
Mr de Benedetti gave a slide presentation depicting various locations of
other projects done by Sutter Hill, showing how they preserved the trees
and how the treatment of the buildings were designed to blend in with the
background.
Mr. Gatto explained the design of the buildings proposed by Sutter Hill
noting that they will be set directly into the hil~side, eliminating any
excessive grading. He also noted that there would be no service loading
areas to the rear, no features extending above the roof, and that they would
maintain almost all of the cypress trees.
Mr. Greenspan explained some of the traffic conditions that would exist as
a result of the proposed shopping center. He noted that there would be a
minimal increase in noise from traffic; the shopping center actually acting
as a buffer from traffic noise. Mr. Greenspan gave an account of a traffic
study he had done of the area. He noted that there were approximately 3700
vehicles using West Orange Avenue daily, of which 35 percent was through
traffic. He further noted that the shopping center would generate approxi-
mately 210 vehicle trips per day and of that 210, 140 would be new traffic
and the remainder would be neighborhood traffic. He stated that he felt there
would be no traffic probl:erns on Westborough Bol.11~e'lard in terms of "U" turns
or left turns. He felt traffic would find alternate routes. He expressed his
feelings that people living in areas west of El Camino Real would be inclined
to use Highway 280 and that people living in areas east of El Camino Real
would be inclined to use various local streets and circle around Chestnut.
Mr. John Thompson presented to the Commission the economic aspects of the
development also noting that he had done a detailed field study of the
trade area, a comprehensive store study, and a sales tax impact study. Mr.
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Sutter Hill, cont'd
Thompson noted that the site is well located, there is market support for the
two larger stores, and there would be a positive impact from the center on
City revenues. He stated that the center would provide permanent employment
for residents of South San Francisco. He further explained the positive
impact of the center on City revenues, noting that there would be approximately
8.2 million dollars per year of sales. Of these sales, 5.6 million would be
taxable sales. Allowing for a decrease of 3.1 million dollars in taxable
sales due to the loss of sales in other shopping areas, total new taxable
dollars would be approximately 2-1/2 million. The Commission requested to
know if the losses would be mainly to shopping centers in close proximity
to th~<n~VJpropos~g~hoppiDgcenter. t~r. Thompson gave a breakdown of estimated
losses to i'nci!i vtdual:>stores : asfo 11 ows :
QFI, Westborough 1 .3 mi 11 ion loss
Safeway, Chestnut 1.2 million II
The Treasury 1.2 million II
Safeway, Westborough 347,000 II
Luck'y, Westborough 253,000 II
Brentwood Market 180,000 II
Independent Markets 300,000 II
Value Giant 950,000 II
Walgreen IS, Westborough 280,000 II
Drug King 114,000 II
Other drug stores 17
The Commission requested to know if these stores would be able to handle the
losses and if not, then it would appear that the revenues to the City would
decrease immensely. Mr. Thompson did not know how the stores would handle
the losses. He further noted that in a study done of Payless stores, the
majority of the people using that store were within a three mile radius, but
that they could expect about 45 percent of shoppers from outside the City of
South San Francisco, thus being outside the three mile radius, to shop at the
new proposed Pay1ess store.
The Commission expressed their concern with the possibility of increased traffic
on West Orange Avenue by its use as.,',a"'lf1cijer connecting street for access to the
new shopping center. They were also concerned with the ingress and egress
driveway onto West Orange, noting that it would increase traffic significantly.
The Commission also noted that West Orange is actually 28 feet from curb to
curb, although the right-of-way is 60 feet.
Another area of concern to the Commission is the amount of northbound traffic
on El Camino Real that will be making left and "U" turns in order to enter
the shopping facilities. There are approximately 2,000 vehicles per day making
this movement with approximately 140 at peak hour. The Commission felt that
there should be a solution worked out to avoid stacking of vehicles on El
Camino/Real, possibly by extending the left turn stacking lane.
The Commission questioned the amount of traffic exiting the shopping center
via six different driveways. It was reported that 1,030 vehicles would use
these driveways. Out of these 1,030 vehicles, 118 per entrance would leave
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Sutter Hill, contld
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on El Camino Real, 108 on Westborough Boulevard, and 233 from the single
entrance on West Orange Avenue. The Commission wondered why so many more
vehicles would be using the single entrance on West Orange. Mr. Greenspan
answered that it is impossible to get an even distribution of automobiles
using these exits. It would depend on their destinations.
The Commission asked Mr. de Benedetti for other locations of their shopping
complexes. They also requested to know if there were similar types of
developments, i.e. other shopping centers in such close proximity to each
other. Mr. de Benedetti replied that they had shopping centers in Roseville,
Sacramento, Livermore, Los Altos, Campbell, Santa Cruz, Salinas, Sparks,
Nevada, Los Gatos, and Saratoga. He further noted that they had two loca-
tions of similar types of developments, San Jose and Campbell.
Kathleen Gundry of Environmental Sciencet~;Associates presented a summation
of the Environmental Impact Report. Ms. GunQ~y discussed the minor impacts
from the proposed project, but found no significant adverse impacts. She
mentioned that this report consisted of a consideration of the fast food
restaurant which would change in noise and traffic densities if it were
instead a savings and loan. She noted that traffic impact is the most
important issue and that trucks coming and going from the site could have
a significant impact. Mr. Greenspan noted that truck noise would be in-
frequent and could be eliminated entirely during sleeping hours.
The Commission requested to know what sWgnificance this project would have
on the Cityls aquifer. Ms. Gundry replied that this proposed project would
not have a significant impact on the aquifer.
Mr. James Robinson, a retired civil engineer and representing Our Redeemer's
Lutheran Church, expressed his concerns regarding the proposed shopping center,
stating that he felt the project would interfere with the function of the
Church from litter and from the concrete retaining wall falling and inffuring
someone. He further quoted from Section 11.15, Title 19, of the California
Administration Code, which noted that there must be access all around the
buildings, in case of a fire, consisting of not less than a 20 foot right-
of-way.
Mrs. Helen Hoopes expressed her opposition to the exit and entrance on West
Orange Avenue. She felt that the shopping center oould be disastrous to the
residents on West Orange from traffic problems.
Mr. Fred Hernandez, Ms. Mary Williams, Mr. D. Minnick, Ms. Rose Minnick and
Ms. Marie Koerner all expressed their opposition to the shopping center with
regard to the lack of need for the center, as well as traffic problems.
Mr. Art Viat expressed his concern with the traffic problems on West Orange
Avenue if this shopping center were approved.
Mr. James OIDay noted his opposition to the proposed shopping center, especially
noting his concern with nighttime deliveries.
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~utter Hill, cont'd
Mr. William Peterson, Club View Apartments, noted his dissatisfaction with
the fact that the entrance/exit driveway on West Orange will be about 50
feet from the entrance to the parking lot and parking garage of the Club
View Apartments which would make it next to impossible to get in or out of
the apartment complex.
Mr. Surendra Amin addressed the Commission on a procedural matter. He noted
that the EIR was filed with the City Clerk on July 3, 1975, which did not
meet the030 day review period required. Staff replied that all requirements
for the EIR had been met and that no action was scheduled until the end of
a 30 day review period.
Mr. F. Allan Weinstein spoke out against the proposed shopping center,
feeling that this new shopping center would not generate any new revenues
for the City if it caused many other businesses to fail.
Mr. Earl Martinelli voiced his opposition to the Commission on the proposed
shopping center and requested a 90 day review period for the EIR due to
the importance of this project.
Ms. Donna Catlett expressed strong opposition to the Commission, noting
that if this proposed shopping center were approved, then it would prove
that citizens have no voice in what happens in their City.
Ms. Deborah Carson, 3820 Carter Drive, South San Francisco did not express
opposition to the proposed shopping center, she merely posed some questions
relating to same for consideration.
1. What entrances would be used for deliveries? The developer
answered that the entrances on Westborough Boulevard and on
El Camino would be utilized for deliveries.
2. What is the percentage of traffic generated in the Chestnut
shopping center? Mr. Greenspan noted that no study had
been done on this.
3. Has any attempt been made to do a marketing survey to deter-
mine if residents would use this shopping center? Mr.
Thompson related that no study had been done.
This matter was continued until September 23, 1975.
COMMUNICATIONS
The only communications were letters from residents regarding the Sutter Hill
project, all of which were distributed to the Commission.
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There being nothing to be considered under Good and Welfare and no further
communications or other matters of interest for the Commission, Chairman
Hale announced that the next regular meeting of the Planning Commission
would be held on July 22, 1975, at 8:00 p.m. in the West Orange Library
Auditorium.
The meeting was adjourned at 11:30 p.m.
Homer.V. Hale,. Chairman
PI a nni ngCornm issi;on
City of South San Francisco
Q:..Crl ~.
David C. Hale, Secretary
Planning Commission
City of South San Francisco
NOTE:
The entries of this Planning Commission meeting indicate the action taken
by the Planning Commission to dispose OfJ~ClSh t.tem. Oral presentations,
arguments and documents are recorded on tape. Thee tapes are ava i 1 ab 1 e in
the Office of the City Planner. Documents related to the items discussed
are on file in the Office of the City Planner and are available for public
inspection.
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