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~~INUTES
of the regular meeting of the South San Francisco Planning Commission
TIME: 7:30 P.M.
DATE: FEBRUARY 22, 1977
PLACE: WEST ORANGE LIBRARY AUDITORIUM
MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice-Chairman Teglia, Commissioners Campredon (arrived
late), Goldberg, Mathewson, Mullin and Chairman Slade
MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioner Bertucelli
ALSO PRESENT: Acting City Planner
William Costanzo
Assistant Planner
Mark Wheeler
Planning Division Secretary
Pamela J. Bayer
City Engineer
Director of Public Services
Robert Yee
Frank Addiego
Fire Chief
Lawrence Toellner
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
Minutes of the Planning Commission meeting of February 8, 1977
Commissioner Goldberg moved that the minutes of the regular meeting of
the South San Francisco Planning Commission of February 8, 1977, be
approved. The motion was seconoed by Vice-Chairman Teglia and was passed
by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Vice-Chairman Teglia, Commissioners Goldberg. and
~1a thewson
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Campredon and Bertucelli
ABSTAINED: Commissioner Mullin and Chairman Slade
ANNOUNCEMENT CONCERNING TAPE RECORDING OF MEETING
Chairman Slade announced that this meeting of the South San Francisco
Planning Commission would be recorded on tape, but that anyone who
wished to come before the Commission to be heard, but who objected to
having his or her voice recorded in this manner, could request the
Chairman to order the tape recorder turned "off" for the duration of
the time that he or she is speaking or is heard.
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February 22, 1977
RESOLUTION OF COMMENDATION
The Commission presented a Resolution of Commendation to the City of
South San Francisco.s former City Planner David C. Hale and expressed
their sincere appreciation to him for his services to the Commission
as well as to the City of South San Francisco.
PM-76-l35
PM-76-l35, a final parcel map by Cabot, Cabot & Forbes to readjust lot
lines on two existing lots on Grandview Drive between Point San Bruno
and East Grand Avenue.
Secretary Costanzo presented the staff report and noted to the Commission
that the final map was in substantial compliance with the Tentative Parcel
Map.
Commissioner Goldberg moved that PM-76-l35 be accepted and approved as
being in substantial compliance with the Tentative Parcel Map. Commis-
sioner Mathewson seconded the motion and it was passed unanimously.
PM-76-l36
PM-76-l36, a request of Gemini Development Company for a final Parcel Map
creating four parcels at the northeast corner of Callan Boulevard and
Greendale Drive.
Mr. Setti, the developer, noted that he was aware of the conditions and
that they were being complied with.
CommdssiQnemif/i ~1athewson asked i f Call an Boul evard was formerly known as
Oakmont Driij~. Secretary Costanzo noted that this was correct.
Commissioner Mathewson moved that PM-76-136 be accepted and approved as
being in substantial compliance with the Tentative Parcel Map. Commis-
sioner Goldberg seconded the motion and it was passed unanimously.
UP-77-373
UP-77-373, a request of Byron Lasky to construct 650 apartment units,
160 boat marina, 45,000 square feet of commercial/industrial support
facilities and related parking and landscaping on Sierra Point. This
matter was only a study session.
Secretary Costanzo presented the staff report on this matter, noting
that he would like the Commission to adopt the findings of the staff
report and take informal action on this project.
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UP-77-373, cont'd
February 22, 1977
Mrs. Mimi Whitney, representing Mr. Lasky, explained that she is the
Assistant Planner on the project and noted that Mr. Lasky has been in-
volved with a number of developments in southern California.
Mr. Donald Woodkey noted that there would be a marina oriented community
with about l60 berths in a private marina. He noted there would be
approximately 650 units which would possibly be done in two phases in
a 14 acre area. He further noted that the development is set back from
the waterfront and that they would be utilizing the waterfront area for
public usage and possibly fire access. There would be two complexes
with parking under cover with wood frame construction on the top. He
noted that the buildings would be graduated from two-story level to the
five-story level. He noted that the commercial end of it would be seen
as office or light industrial with some of the area to be used for marina
related uses, such as boat storage or repair.
Commissioner Teglia requested to know how the South San Francisco portion
relates to the Brisbane portion. Mrs. Whitney noted that on the Brisbane
side there would be a convention center with hotels and retail shops. She
noted that Brisbane is requiring a large portion of open space and a public
marina with about 380 berths. Commissioner Teglia noted that she would
1 i ke to see one pl an whi ch i ncl uded both porti ons of the project.
Commissioner Goldberg addressed the problem of access. He wished to know
if there would be other access besides the freeway. Mrs. Whitney noted
to the Commission that there is a haul route now on the western side of
the freeway. Commissioner Goldberg expressed his concerns with fire
access, with the amount of people and traffic that would be generated
from the construction of the project. He noted that the Fire Department
would have to go through Brisbane to get into the project. Mrs. Whitney
noted that she understands the concerns and that Cal Trans has designed
an interchange with full knowledge of the project area. She also noted
that Brisbane will provide a Fire Department in the redevelopment area
because it is required. Fire Chief Toellner noted that there has been
some staff review on this project and there is concern with the distance
and that they will require automatic alarm and sprinkler systems.
Commissioner Mathewson asked if sprinklers aren't already required under
the condominium ordinance. Chief Toellner noted that sprinklers are only
required for commercial buildings. He further noted that the time and
distance.!~Tre~EOnse will make them require automatic alarms and sprinklers.
Vice-Chairman Teglja requested to know where the alarms would ring. Chief
Toellnernoted they would ring in South San Francisco and South San Francisco
would respond.
Commissioner Goldberg asked if the 350 parking stalls proposed for the
project would conform to the parking ordinance. Secretary Costanzo noted
that he assumes it does, but that they would probably add another 1/4
space per unit as well as guest parking.
Commissioner Goldberg asked if the sewer system would be a joint one or
separate from Brisbane. Mr. Woodkey noted that no determination of this
had been made to date.
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UP-77-373, cont'd
February 22, 1977
Commissioner Mathewson asked Mrs. Whitney if she hadreceived a copy of
the letter from U.S. Steel Corporation. She stated th~t she did and that
she had called them to find out more information. From what they told
her she understood that they were concerned with their project encroaching
into their land via the four acres out into the Bay.
Commissioner Mathewson asked what would be the value of a studio, one-
bedroom, or two-bedroom apartment. Mrs. Whitney stated that they were
not in a position to offer that information as of this date.
Chairman Slade asked wh~t the major difficulties would be in bringing
this project into reality. Mr. Woodkey noted that the major factor
was cost because of the necessity of piling.
Mrs. Whitney showed several slides of both the Brisbane and the Siouth San
Francisco portions of land, noting the areas which would be involved
with residential uses and which areas would be involved with commercial
uses.
Commissioner Mullin asked if the 160 berths would be reserved for the
tenants. Mrs. Whitney said they would be. Commissioner<Mullin asked
what the market might be for boating enthusiasts who would want to buy
a home with a berth. Mrs. Whitney noted that it was South San Francisco.s
harbor master who offerred her information regarding the number of people
who are waiting to get berths and that evidently there is quite a demand.
Commissioner Mullin asked about retail facilities related to marina uses.
Mr. Woodkey noted that Brisbane would not have ship or boat repair yards
and that the section proposed to be used for this would serve the entire
marina. He further noted that what would fit into the retail facilities
would depend upon the market demand.
Commissioner Mullin asked if the type of construction proposed for the
proj ect h~d been used before and where. ~1r. Wood key sa i d it has been
used in projects like Woodlake in San Mateo or Oak Creek in Palo Alto.
Vice-Chairman Teglia asked if this project would generate children and
in what school district would they be. Mrs. Whitney noted that they
would be in the South San Francisco School District.
Vice-Chairman Teglia then asked when this project was proposed to begin.
Mrs. Whitney noted that possibly year after next.
Vice-Chairman Teglia requested to know what the square footage of the
light industrial building would be. Mr. Woodkey noted it would be
37,400 square feet.
Vice-Chairman Teglia requested to know if there would be any rental
units. Mr. Woodkey noted that at the present time they will be condo-
minium units. Secretary Costanzo noted that there could be investors
who would buy the units and then rent them out. He also noted that
possibly the developer could rent them out while waiting to sell them.
Vice-Chairman Teglia asked if soils testing had been done. Mr. Woodkey
noted that this area is fill and that the South San Francisco portion
is better than the Brisbane portion because the Brisbane portion is new
fill and has not had time to settle.
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UP-77-373, cont'd
February 22, 1977
Chairman Slade asked Mr. Grudzenski of Visitacion Associates if he had
any comments on the project since the Commission is concerned with how
this proposed project would tie in with Visitacion Associates' project
across the street. Mr. Grudeenski noted that he is concerned with
sanitary sewers, storm drains, water service to the property, and access
to the property.
Secretary Costanzo noted that there are questions regarding funding for
on and off-site improvements and maintenance.
Commissioner Goldberg asked what the City was doing with the finger of
land from Brisbane's border down to about the motel, regarding the
possibility of South San Francisco's re-annexing this land. Secretary
Costanzo noted that there was a swap discussed, but that the City Council
did not find it acceptable. Commissioner Goldberg noted that he recalls
hearing Brisbane's mayor say that the land had no further use for Brisbane
and he would be glad to give it back to South San Francisco. He asked if
this could enter into possible alternative access to Sierra Point.
Secretary Costanzo noted that he doubted it.
Commissioner Mathewson noted that he believes, since this is conceptual
only, that nothing sho~ldb.e done on it until it is firm. Secretary
Costanzo noted that he~is..'igoing to do nothing on this until all the
necessary reports and information are submitted. Mrs. Whitney noted
that all the necessary documents would be prepared as recommended. She
noted that she was concerned with the magnitude and costs of the project
if they should go ahead with it and it was the purpose of this study
session to see if the Commission felt the project warranted further
consideration.
The Commission generally was in agreement that no action of any kind
should be taken on this matter until firm plans and all necessary documents
were brought before the Commission. Secretary Costanzo noted that his
feelings were that this is a change in direction for this area and that
the Planning Commission should have some input on it, since it was possible
that they might find it is not desirable for the industrial area sometime
in the future. Vice-Chairman Teglia noted that she likes the approach
and would like the various reports to go forward. Commissioner Goldberg
asked Mrs. Whitney if she had any problems with these recommendations. She
noted that if the City feels they are necessary to go forward with this
project, then she will make every effort to see that it is accomplished.
UP-77-376
This was a study session on UP-77-376, a request of Frumenti Development
Company to construct 152 condominium units and related support facilities
on Carter Drive, between Meath and Westborough Boulevard.
Secretary Costanzo presented the staff report and noted that this is an
extension of the Braewood project which goes up Carter Drive to the
apartments at the top of Westborough Boulevard. He noted that all of
the Braewood project was going to be four-plexes on 251xlOO' lots and
what was actually built amounted to 1/2 the density of what was approved.
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UP-77-376, cont'd
February 22, 1977
Mr. Weber, architect, noted that the land is a four acre site with
internal driveways. He noted that there would be 152 units made up
of three different unit types, one-bedroom and den, two-story town-
houses with two-bedrooms and three-bedroom units with a central club-
house. He noted that the project would be in five phases and that the
total parking is 233 covered and uncovered spaces when there are only
228 required. He noted there would be trash enclosures for each
building cluster and that there will be paths throughout the area.
Mr. Dick Julian, landscape architect, discussed the trees and shrubs
that would be planted and their locations and their utilization as a
buffer. He noted that all landscaping would relate to site conditions,
such as wind, sun, shade, etcetera, as well as adjoining properties,
acting as a screen.
Mr. Weber explained that the materials to be used would be wood siding
and earth tone colors with each unit having a view corner and opening
onto patios. He noted that the upper units would have greenhouse type
sky 1 i g h ts .
Commissioner Teglia asked if this project had been passed by the Archi-
tectural Committee. Secretary Costanzo said the proposed design with
that type of roof configuration was not acceptable.
Commissioner Campre~qn asked about lighting. Mr. Weber said there would
be mushroom and pole lights throughout the pathway system for security
purposes.
Commissioner Mathewson asked if there would be sprinklers required. Chief
Toel'ner noted that he would like to require these as there is concern in
this area. He further noted that two one-hour walls would be required for
each unit. Mr. Weber said this would be done. Mr. Tronoff noted that the
units would be built like townhouses, but they are intended to be sold as
condominiums. Chief Toellner noted that this project is "a fire fighter's
nightmarell because of the close proximity of the buildings. Mr. Weber
noted that they intend to sit down with the Fire Chief and work out
solutions to these problems.
Commissioner Mathewson asked what the cul-de-sac was adjoining the project.
Mr. Weber noted it is on the adjacent property and that it was supposed
to have been dedicated, but never was. He said it adjoins an apartment
house and carports. Commissioner Mathewson asked if this was the only
street entering into that apartment house area. Secretary Costanzo said it was.
Chali'rhlan Slade asked wnat time frame is involved with the different phases
of the project and the total completion of same. Mr. Frumenti noted that
it depends upon sales, but that it should be a maximum of 18 months.
Commissioner Mathewson asked what the price range would be. Mr. Frumenti
noted between $48,000 and $65,000 to date.
Commissioner Mathewson asked if there had been any seismic information
received. Secretary Costanzo noted that there had been a study done on
that site which was reviewed by William Cotton and that the Planning
Commission had approved completion of the Braewood development. He further
noted that Hr. Frumenti indicated to him that they would update this soils
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February 22, 1977
report and that it would be a condition of the use permit. Commissioner
Mathewson asked if this is an on-going project or if an EIR would be
required. Secretary Costanzo noted that it has been high density since
1965 which places it before the 1970 EIR requirements.
Commissioner Mathewson questioned the Architectural Comrlili'lttee.s findings
regarding the roof line. Secretary Costanzo noted that the Architectural
Committee did not accept the roof line and would like to see different
roof elements and would deal with elevations. He further noted that they
would not approve Texcote as exterior materials and that hopefully the
exterior treatment would be board on board siding or something similar.
Commissioner Goldberg requested to know if there were provisions made to
drain water so it does not accumulate under the homes. Mr. Tronoff said
that the storm drains have already been installed and that his plans call
for an extension of existing drains into Common Greens area to pick up
excess water. He further noted that the storm drains are sufficient to
handle any water run-off from the paved areas of the project.
Commissioner Mullin asked the project developers if they were aware of
the policy statement coming before the Commission that evening that all
sprinkler system and landscaping could be held in abeyance by depositing
a certificate of deposit or a cash deposit with the City insuring that
these systems will be put in upon such time as the present drough condi-
tions are alleviated. Mr. Frumenti said he understood the policy statement
but that it would be very costly to put in a sprinkler system after the
completion of the project. He noted that the irrigation system coua/d be
put in and just not activated until such time as it is possible to do so.
Commissioner Mathewson asked if it would be practical to put a moratorium
on building and hook-ups. Secretary Costanzo noted that he feels we are
not at that point yet.
Chairman Slade asked if the developer had checked with the police depart-
ment regarding security. Mr. Weber said that they have not, but intend to.
Chairman Slade noted that'South San Francisco.s Police Department has joined
with other cities in setting up crime prevention units and is heavily in-
volved in the prevention of crimes before they happen. He noted it would
be worthwhile for the developer to so dome planning as far as these units
are concerned.
There was some discussion on the San Andreas Fault Line. Commissioner
Goldberg requested some clarification of the location of the fault relative
to the proposed development. Secretary Costanzo stated that the fault was
located east of Carter Drive and that there would be a subsequent geological
investigation by the applicant which would be verified by the City's geologist.
Vice-Chairman Teglia requested some comments from the Fire Department on
the materials proposed for exterior treatment. Chief Toellner noted that
he would want to prevent the use of wood shingles and certain types of
plastics.
The soils engineer for the project noted that he would like to have a copy
of the soils report from William Cotton. Secretary Costanzo noted that he
would provide him with a copy of this report.
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February 22, 1977
The Planning Commission agreed to schedule this matter for public hearing
at the Planning Commission meeting of March 22, 1977.
COM~~UN I CAT IONS
Secretary Costanzo presented a policy statement to the Commission regard-
ing the installation of sprinkler systems and landscaping during these
drought conditions. He noted that the City Council indicates they would
like to see efforts to conserve water at this point. Vice-Chairman
Teglia noted that she would like to see "drought resistent materials"
deleted from this policy statement as she feels the present drought
conditions are temporary. Commissioner ~1athewson noted that "sprinkler
systems" under No.3 should be deleted to allow the developer to install
the systems, but not to activate them. Secretary Costanzo agreed and
noted to the Commission that this policy statement was prepared to give
the developer the option of installing landscaping at the time of the
development or waiting to instal' it until such time as the drought
problem lets up. Commissioner Mathewson moved to adopt this policy
statement regarding water conservation with the above listed deletion
in No.3. Commissioner Goldberg seconded the motion and it was passed
unanimously.
Secretary Costanzo presented a staff report requesting that the Planning
Commission meeting of March 8, 1977, which is a public hearing, be moved
to the Planning Commission meeting of March 22, 1977, and the meeting
of the 22nd, which is a study session be moved to March 8. He noted
that since the City Council will not adopt the CEQA guidelines early
enough to allow staff to advertise for the public hearing of March 8,
1977,s'tcit''f';W9uld need this extra time. The Commission unanimously
agreed to switch these two meeting dates.
Secretary Costanzo noted to the Commission that the City Council had
approved the initial steps necessary to secure the services of a Senior
Planner and that they are proceeding with this and are looking for
someone with four to five years experience in current planning. He
further noted that this person should be on board by March 15.
Secretary Costanzo noted that the Planning Commission would be receiving
a completely codified zoning ordinance and a complete procedural outline
of the functions of the office of the City Planner at the next meeting.
GOOD AND WELFARE
Vice-Chairman Teglia requested to know what was happening with the marina
report from the consultants. Secretary Costanzo noted that all aspects
of this project are being managed by the City Manager and that he ha;s
put in a request with the City Manager for a report fr2m the marina
consultants, as well as a presentation, but that he has. not heard anything
on this to date.
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February 22, 1977
Mr. John Falsarella, 282 Westview, South San Francisco, noted to the
Commission that there will be a meeting on the Feasibility Study for
the Marina at the Brentwood Lodge on Wednesday, February 23, 1977, and
that the9~.~.~t speaker woul.~.<be Daniel McNichols, if any of the Commis-
s ion mernbers<?i wi shed to att.end.
Commissioner Goldberg noted that he would like the signs at Colina
removed. Secretary Costanzo noted that he would see that this is done.
There being nothing further to be considered under Good and Welfare and
no other communications or matters of interest for the Commission, Chair-
man Slade announced that the next regular meeting of the Planning Commission
would be held on March 8, 1977, at 7:30 p.m., in the West Orange Library
Auditorium.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:50 p.m.
William Costanzo, ecretary
Planning Commission
City of South San Francisco
Wesley Slade, Chairman
Planning Commission
City of South San Francisco
NOTE:
The entries of this Planning Commission meeting indicate the action taken
to dispose of each item. Oral presentations, arguments and documents are
recorded on tape. The tapes are available in the office of the City
Planner. Documents related to the items discussed are on file in the
office of the City Planner and are available for public inspection.
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