HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 05/25/1976
M I NUT E S
of the regular meeting of the South San Francisco Planning Commission
TIME: 8:00 P.M.
BATE: MAY 25, 1976
PLACE: EL CAMINO HIGH SCHOOL, LITTLE THEATER
MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice-Chairman Teglia, Commissioners Bertucelli, Goldberg,
Hale, Mathewson, Mullin and Chairman Slade
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
ALSO PRESENT: City Planner
David C. Hale
Director of Public Services
Frank Addiego
Zoning Administrator
City Engineer
William Costanzo
Robert Yee
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
Minutes of the Planning Commission meeting of May 17, 1976
Commissioner Bertucelli moved that the minutes of the regular meeting of
the South San Francisco Planning Commission of May 17, 1976 be approved.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Hale and was passed by the
following roll call vote:
AYES: Vice-Chairman Teglia, Commissioners Bertucelli, Goldberg,
Hale, Mathewson, Mullin and Chairman Slade
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAINED: None
ANNOUNCEMENT CONCERNING TAPE RECORDING OF MEETING
Chairman Slade announced that this meeting of the South San Francisco
Planning Commission would be recorded on tape, but that anyone who
wished to come before the Commission to be heard, but who o~jected to
having his or her voice recorded in this manner, could request the
Chairman to order the tape recorder turned lIoffll for the duration of
the time that he or she is speaking or is heard.
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RESOLUTION NO. 2188
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT
SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO SHOPPING CENTER
Certification of the Environmental Impact Report for the proposed commercial
development on the 6.85 acre site at the southwesterly corner of Westborough
Boulevard and the E1 Camino Real.
Secretary Hale presented the staff report.
Proponent: Environmental Science Associates
Foster City, CA
Opponents: Helen Hoopes
825 W. Orange Avenue
South San Francisco, CA
William Evans
84"9- W."": Orange"!:\venue
South San Francisco, CA
Mr. Hutcheson
116 Knoll Circle
South San Francisco, CA
William Henderson
387 Dolores Way
South San Francisco, CA
Mrs. Hoopes expressed her doubts that the EIR was correct, noting several
places within the IIEIRII with which she disagreed. She noted that when she
moved to the area she was advised that the land in question would only be
used for apartment buildings. She said there had never been any mention
of commercial uses. She noted several areas of concern--remova1 of vegeta-
tion, increased noise level, flooding in the area, increased demands for
sewage treatment, and increase in pollutants. She further attacked the
mitigation measures for minor impacts proposed by Environmental Science
Associates in the Environmental Impact Report.
Mr. Hutcheson noted that he felt the IIEIRII should be updated to 1976
standards. Secretary Hale read the requirements for an IIEIRII from the
California Environmental Quality Act, stating that this IIEIRII met those
requirements.
Mr. William Henderson expressed his concern with who would be financially
responsible for enlarging the stacking lane in the westbound lefthand turn
lane on El Camino Real. Secretary Hale stated that the plans had been
submitted to CalTrans and that they had replied that there was no concern
on the part of the State over this development, therefore, there would
apparently be no need to enlarge the stacking lane. Mr. Henderson said he
wanted the enlargement of the stacking lane made a part of the conditions
for the development. Commissioner Teglia asked Secretary Hale if the City
had received a letter from Cal Trans stating that the turning lane capacity
was satisfactory to them. Secretary Hale said that the City was in possession
of such a letter. Director of Public Services Addiego noted that he felt
there was a problem at this intersection and that it needed looking into.
He stated that the developer would be responsible to do a traffic study.
He also stated that the amount of traffic at this intersection would be
dependent upon the hours of operation of the shopping center.
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IIEIRII, contld
May 25, 1976
Mr. William Evans asked how delivery trucks would move in and out of the
shopping center. Chairman Slade noted that this question was not related
to the EIR, but rather would be covered under the Use Permit application
hearing.
Mr. Paul E. Zigman, president of Environmental Science Associates, which
prepared the IIEIR,II explained to the Commission and to the audience the
purpose of the IIEIR.II Secretary Hale further explained that this hearing
was only to certify its compliance with State guidelines and that it
would not necessarily have a direct bearing on whether or not the develop-
ment were approved.
There was
counts in
May 1976.
count for
even with
some discussion on the apparent discrepancies between the traffic
the IIEIRII and the traffic counts done by the City Engineer in
The IlEIRII consultant noted that an increase in the traffic
this area of 1500 cars in one year seemed very high, but that
that discrepancy, the conclusions would have been the same.
Commissioner Mullin asked Environmental Science Associates how long they
had been in existence and how many IIEIRlslI theYJ,had done and how many
of those reported adverse impacts rather than positive effects. Ms.
Kathleen Gundry, author of the IIEIR,1l said they had been in existerffie'e
since 1969 and had done 100 or 150 IIEIRls.1I She further noted that they
would only be doing an IlEIRII if there were potential adverse impacts.
She said they do not usually mention positive impacts in an Environmental
Impact Report.
Commissioner Hale introduced Resolution No. 2188 certifying the EIR. The
Commission unanimously adopted the Resoltuion.
The following three agenda items were discussed jointly because of their
close relationship to each other:
1. General Plan Amendment/South San Francisco Shopping Center/
Resolution No. 2189 - Proposed amendment to the City.s
General Plan changing the designation of the 6.85 acre
site from Medium-High Density Residential to Neighborhood
Commercial.
2. RZ-29/Sutter Hill, Ltd./Reso1ution No. 2190 - Application
for rezoning the above described property from IIUII Unclas-
sified to the IIC-11I Neighborhood Commercial District.
3. UP-75-315/Sutter Hill, Ltd. - Application for a Use Permit
for the development of commercial shopping uses at the above
described property.
Secretary Hale presented the staff report for UP-75-3l5, reading into the
record the Special Conditions and the findings of the staff report.
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May 25, 1 976
Commissioner Goldberg said he would like to include in Special Condition
#}6 that in addition to the study, West Orange Avenue should actually be
cul-de-sacced for a period of 90 - 120 days which would eliminate through
traffic in the Southwood area. If this cul-de-sac solves the problem,
he would like tbe developer to bear the expense of permanently closing
West Orange Avenue.
Proponents: Michael Couch
Sutter Hill, Ltd.
Palo Alto, CA
John Gatto
James Foug & Associates
Palo Alto, CA
Jack Greenspan
Lindscott & Associates
Engineers
Opponents: William Henderson
387 Dolores Way
South San Francisco, CA
Clifford Farber
San Mateo, CA
Edward Youngs
419 Fairway Drive
South San Francisco, CA
Gordon Hutcheson
116 Knoll Circle
South San Francisco, CA
Helen Hoopes
825 West Orange
South San Francisco, CA
F. Allan Weimstein
332 Susie Way
South San Francisco, CA
Isabella Guerra
619 Southwood Drive
South San Francisco, CA
Arthur Connally
718 West Orange
South San Francisco, CA
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Phil Robertson
John Thompson Co.
Los Altos, CA
Mr. C. Robbins
Past President of California
Gol\fi Club
844 West Orange Avenue
South San Francisco, CA
Paul Davis
849 West Orange
South San Francisco, CA
Donald G. Black
849 ~Jest Orange
South San Francisco, CA
William R. Evans
849 West Orange
South San Francisco, CA
Henry Koerner
849 West Orange, #30B6
South San Francisco, CA
Fred De Jarlais
721 West Orange
South San Francisco, CA
Claire D'Amico
136 San Felipe
So~~h San Francisco, CA
Bruce M. Hood
849 West Orange, #3009
South San Franci sco ,G.A
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~1ay 25, 1976
Mr. John Gatto, James Foug & Associates, explained the general outlay and
construction of the shopping center, and its relationship with the New
Southern Restaurant. He noted that in regard to the truck movement, there
are 71 feet in which to maneuver. He did state that circulation patterns
would be a concern. He further noted that the problems with signing has
been eliminated by lowering the height of the building.
Jack Greenspan noted that Lindscott and Associates had done a traffic
count and study in May, 1974, extensive analysis of which indicated that
35 percent of traffic in the Southwood area was through traffic. He
noted that the driveway exiting onto West Orange is being designed to
allow right turns only. He noted that studies had been done of the West
Orange Avenue traffic problems and several alternatives had been proposed.
He noted the problems with all these alternatives.
1. Stop signs on West Orange. He noted there would be a great
deal of trouble in enforcing the stop signs.
2. Traffic diverters. He noted that these would cause a great
deal of inconvenience for the people living in that area.
3. Making West Orange one-way, going different directions at
different times of the day. He noted that this would also
cause the residents a great deal of inconvenience.
4. Cul-de-saccing West Orange. He noted that method would
greatly reduce the amount of through traffic on this street.
Mr. Phil Robertson, John S. Thompson Company in Los Altos, explained the
economic feasibility report presented to staff and the Commission. He
explained revenues the City would be getting from the proposed development
and explained what the losses would be for other stores in the area.
Mr. C. Robbins noted that taxes are very high on this land, that the Board
of Equalization is placing sessments on the land and that the Board
noted that commercial uses would probably be best for that parcel. He
further. stated that he favored the shopping center at this location.
Mr. William Henderson noted his concerns over the proposed development
being approved. He felt that traffic patterns and an increase in traffic
would cause a great deal of problems for the people on West Orange Avenue
and for the entire So~~hwood area. He felt there would be no way of
diverting traffic from this area. He noted that the proposed development
would cause certain businesses in the area to close, namely Value Giant.
He felt Payless should buyout Value Giant.
Mr. Clifford Farber expressed his opposition to the proposed development.
He felt people in South San Francisco, Daly City, or Pacifica would not
support the shopping center, specifically a superdrug. He noted that a
petition was being circulated now against the proposed shopping center and
that at present it had 99 signatures on it. He felt because of the losses
to other businesses, the proposed shopping center would not generate any
further revenues to the Ci.ty.
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Sutter Hill, cont1d
~1ay 25, 1976
Mr. Youngs expressed concern with increased traffic on Fairway Drive
which joins Southwood and West Orange. He felt that Fairway is a very
narrow street and could not accommodate any increased traffic.
Mr. Hutche1son noted his opposition to the proposed development and asked
Mr. Robert'son to give him figures of losses to other businesses in the
Ci ty, as we 11 as fi gures for ga.fl~rJ;s to the Ci ty. Mr. Robertson noted that
sales decrine would be about $2,570,000 and that the net gain to the City
of South San Francisco would be $2,774,000 per year. Mr. Hutcheson ex-
pressed a great deal of concern over traffic patterns in the area. He
also expressed his concerns with dust control when Sutter Hill started
grading.
Mrs. Hoopes submitted several petitions to the City Planner with about
850 signatures. She also expressed her opposition to the proposed develop-
ment.
F. Allan Weinstein expressed his opposition to the shopping center noting
that if this use were permitted, it would be detrimental to other shopping
centers in the nearby area. He felt it would raise property taxes and that
any revenues generated by the shopping center would be eliminated because
of the amount of losses to the other shopping areas.
Isabella Guerra expressed her opposition to the proposed shopping center
stating her concerns with losses to other shopping areas and the increased
traffic through the Southwood area.
Arthur Connally expressed his opposition to the proposed shopping center
stating that the residents in the area did not need such a shopping center
and did not want it.
Mr. Paul Davis expressed his opposition to the proposed shopping center
and read into the record several paragraphs from a letter from the law
offices of Paul Eschu, representing the manager of the Club View Apart-
ments. This letter noted their opposition to the shopping center because
it would downgrade the quality of living for those residents.
Mr. Donald Black expressed his opposition to the proposed shopping center
noting that he felt that the estimated 20 to 30 trucks per week was an
underestimation. He noted that for a smaller store than Payless, there
were about 50 trucks per week. He noted his concern with these trucks
passing through the Southwood area, creating a traffic hazard.
Mr. Evans noted his opposition to the proposed shoppin~ center, stating
that there is enough pollution in the area and that the added truck
traffic generated would cause a greater pollution hazard.
Mr. Koerner expressed his opposition to the proposed shopping center and
noted his skepticism to many of the studies that had been done and the
figures presented as a result of these studies. He stated that the
residents of the area did not need or want this shopping center.
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May 25, 1976
Mr. De Jarlais expressed his opposition to the proposed shopping center
noting his concerns with increased traffic in the area.
Mrs. DIAmico noted her opposition to the proposed shopping center, stating
that the increased traffic would be very hazardous, especially to children,
and she cited several instances where children have been injured or killed
by vehicles.
Mr. Hood expressed his opposition to the proposed shopping center, stating
that he was especially concerned with increased traffic.
After Chairman Slade closed the hearing, Commissioner Bertucelli expressed
his desire to add to Special Condition #16 the installation of various
traffic control measures: stop signs, diverters or a cul-de-sac on West
Orange on a trial basis.
Commi ssioner Mathewson not~~ hts.Y'~sistance to the signs being part of the
Use Permit applicationeiiiliiifiSu'l'0'themssnoted that he felt the financial build-
ing and fast food building should be deleted from the application and
held under a separate Use Permit application because both buildings are
of a conceptual nature. He further noted that the New Southern Restaurant
expansion should be considered as a separate Use Permit.
Commissioner Goldberg reiterated on the amendment to Special Condition #16
that the City test various alternatives for solving the problems of
through traffic in the Southwood area for a period of 90 to 120 days. He
further noted that ht would like to add Special Condition #18 that residents
be surveyed at the end of this period to determine the effectiveness of
the measures used to solve the traffic problems and that Council take the
necessary action to implement these measures on a permanent basis.
There was lengthy discussion on Conditions 12 and 13. Secretary Hale
stated that both conditions were included as a result of suggested mitiga-
tion measures in the IIEIR,II add are deemed desirable for this development.
Commissioner Mathewson questioned the disposition of the permanent concrete
building next to the New Southern Restaurant. Mr. Couch explained that it
belonged to PT&T and that he had obtained a 65 year easement to be able to
cross that land.
Commissioner Mathewson introduced Resolution No. 2189 recommending to the
City Council thereof that the General Plan of the City be amended to change
the land use designation for the 6.8 acre site located southwesterly of
the intersection of Westborough Boulevard and the El Camino Real from
Medium-High Density Residential to Neighborhood Commercial.
The Resolution was adopted by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Bertuce11i, Goldberg, Hale, Mathewson, Mullin
and Chairman Salde
NOES: Ms;ice-Cha i rman Tegl i a
ABSENT: None
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May 25, 1976
Commissioner Goldberg, stating that the proposed shopping center could
legally be developed in the IIUII Zone, moved that Resolution No. 2190
recommending to the City Council that RZ-29, petition of Sutter Hill,
Ltd., to rezone property located southwesterly of the intersection of
Westborough Boulevard and the El Camino Real from IIUII Wnclassified to
IIC-11I Neighborhood Commercial District, be rejected. The motion died
for lack of a second1
Commissioner Hale introduced Resolution No. 2190 and it was adopted by
the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Bertucelli, Hale, Mullin and Chairman Slade
NOES: Vice-Chairman Teglia and Commissioners Goldberg and Mathewson
ABSENT: None
Commissioner Hale moved that UP-15-315 be approved and that said Use Permit
shall stand approved upon the completion of all conditions and limitations
contained in the staff report with the following changes:
1. Special Condition #4 was deleted.
2. Special Condition #8 was changed to read: IIThat the signs
proposed on the fronts of the structures are subject to the
review and approval of the Architectural Committee.1I The
remainder of Condition #8 was deleted.
3. Special Conditions #12 and #13 were deleted. Special Condi-
tion #18 was substituted to read as follows: liThe two
separate buildings shown as IIfinancialll and IIfast foodll
are removed from this application as they are of a conceptual
nature and may be considered by the Planning Commission
under separate application.
4. Special Condition #16 was changed to read as follows: IIThat
the developer at his own expense shall cause a study to be
made of the various alternatives to reducing the amount of
t~affic and congestion on West Orange Avenue. Said study shall
be submitted to the City Engineerls office for review and re-
por~ by staff to the City Council for its consideration. Upon
Ci!~YN Counci 1 approva 1, the developer sha 11 cause the improve-
ments to be installed at his cost on a trial basis. If it is
determined by the City Council that permanent improvements are
to be made to the circulation system in the area, necessitated
by the compounding of an existing traffic problem because of
the proposeqdevelopment, then the developer shall install
these improv~ments at his cost.
5. Special Condition #19 was added to read as follows: IIAny
modification of the median strip on El Camino Real required
by the City Engineer shall be installed and the cost borne
by the applicant.1I
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May 25, 1976
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Bertucelli and was passed by the
following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Bertucelli, Goldberg, Hale, Mathewson, Mullin
and Chairman Slade
NOES: Vice-Chai
ABSENT: None
WORK PROGRAM
Secretary Hale explained the Work Program presented to the Commission,
noting that he had attempted to list all functions of the Planning Division
and the staff time involved with each. He noted that the total time in-
volved, not including spur of the moment things that are unavoidable and
which take up much of staffls time, is 4.1 man years. He further noted
that this time did not include sick, leave, vacation time, Planning Com-
mission meetings, City Council meetings, or unforeseen studies.
The Commission expressed their concern with reducing Planning staff,
based on the work program presented to the Commission, since it appeared
obvious that there was insufficient staff at present to handle the anti-
cipated work load.
Director of Public Services Addi uggested that the Commission attend
the budget hearings on June 5, so that they could get a clearer picture
of what is happening with the budget and why certain cuts are necessary.
The Commission could then present its position regarding the Assistant
Planner deletion.
Commissioner Mullin moved that the Commission send a letter to recommend
to the City Council that the present Planning staff not be reduced, based
on the work program submitted to the Commission. Commissioner Bertucelli
seconded the motion and it was passed unanimously.
There being nothing to be considered under Good and Welfare or under Communi-
cations or other matters of interest to the Commission, Chairman Slade
announced that the next regular meeting of the Planning Commission would
be held on June 8, 1976, at the West Orange Library Auditorium at 8:00 p.m.
The meeting was adjourned at 1:45 ~.m.
Wesley Slade, Chairman
Planning Commission
City of South San Francisco
David C. Hale, Secretary
Planning Commission
City of South San Francisco
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NOTE:
The entries of this Planning Commission meeting indicate the action
taken to dispose of each item. Oral presentations, arguments and
documents are recorded on tape. The tapes are available in the office
of the City Planner. Documents related to the items discussed are on
file in the office of the City Planner and are available for public
inspection.
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