HomeMy WebLinkAbout04.17.91 Minutes
Mayor Jack Drago
Council:
Richard A. Haffey
Gus Nicolopulos
John R. Penna
Roberta Cerri Teglia
M I NUT E S
City Council
Municipal Services Building
Community Room
April 17, 1991
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ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
CALL TO ORDER:
ROLL CALL:
(Cassette No.1)
7:05 p.m. Mayor Drago presiding.
Council present: Nicolopulos, Penna,
and Drago.
Council absent: Haffey, and Teglia.
City Clerk Battaya related that
Councilman Haffey had informed her offic
that he was unable to attend tonight's
meeting due to work obligations.
City Manager Armas stated that
Councilwoman Teglia had informed his
office that she would not be in atten-
dance at tonight's meeting.
Planning Commissioners Present: Boblitt
Mantegani, Warren, Zellmer,
Matteucci.
Planning Commissioners Absent: Wendler,
and Chairman DeZordo.
1. Westborough/Gellert Urban Design
Plan Guidelines.
Mayor Drago stated that the urban design
concept for this area had been discussed
since 1987 when members of the Council h
met with the Developer, but never had th
community been involved until 1990. He
related: problems with consultants that
had led to their discharge; he had
appointed a committee consisting of two
members of the Council (himself and
Vice Mayor Nicolopulos), two members of
the Planning Commission (Commissioners
DeZordo and Boblitt); looked at an urban
design as a different approach; attempte
to get the surrounding neighborhood
involved in the process; ultimate goal
was a quality development concept econo-
mically feasible to the Developer, and
acceptable to the community; David L.
Gates & Consultants had been hired as th
consultant; eight meetings had taken
place over the past year involving the
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Planning Commission Chairman DeZordo
Arrived.
community at the Westborough Community
Building; the meetings had dealt with
architecture and land use; that there hal
been a give and take in candid
discussions that had led to the envi-
sioning of a footprint of the area.
Chairman OeZordo arrived at 7:25 p.m.
He stated that Mr. Gates would walk
through the proposal and open it up to
questions, and have the Chief Planner
outline the steps of the process should
everyone concur on the direction; and
comments from the Subcommittee.
1. Westborough/Gellert - Continued.
He expressed concern that the Planning
Commission had not received documen-
tation for this meeting until this
evening.
He complimented staff on the excellent
staff report.
Mr. Gates presented a slide show and
explained his written report: on the
blueprint goals for the area; to create
character and a memory.
Discussion followed: that the communitJ
had related their desires on a conceptua
design for the area to the Developer;
that the City would cooperate with the
Developer; the Developer would still ha~
to submit plans and an EIR; that housin~
could make the area economically
feasible; building a parking structure
and making usable space about it; small
shop concept with housing or office use;
Commissioner Warren would have concerns
on maintenance if there were to be pri-
vate streets, and responsibility for
landscaping because there was a mixed u~
of residential and commercial; she did
not like carports and had recently wit-
nessed where they had to be torn down il
the Housing Authority; also concerned
about massive residential structures an,
felt the stairs at the sides of the
buildings looked like fire escapes; tha'
if the parking areas were visible from
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1. Westborough/Gellert - Continued.
the freeway, they would not be attrac-
tive; that the two Bodies were only
looking at the concept; that this would
be coming back in the future to both
Boards for adoption and a look at modifi.
cations to the General Plan and the
Zoning Ordinance; compliments to the
Subcommittee on their work; the communit~
had said that housing was acceptable in
the development; that perhaps other area~
of the City could be looked at in a like
manner, such as the El Camino corrider;
looking towards a master plan for an
area rather than having piecemeal deve-
lopment; Commissioner Boblitt expressed
enjoyment in being a part of the process
and complimented the work done by Mr.
Gates and his staff; cited her concern
over stabilization of the hill in any
type of development; her concern over
traffic when Sharp Park opens; she felt
that housing was denser than it needed t(
be; she was concerned over the water
situation; Chairman OeZordo also
expressed his appreciation in serving on
the Subcommittee, and he wanted to see
affordable housing in that development.
Consensus by both Bodies - To move for-
ward.
2. Land Use Policies.
Commissioner Warren cited her concerns il
watching Council meetings: Council
voicing a lack of understanding of
Planning Commission actions; she believel
it to be a lack of communication; point
in case was Commission action to address
severe parking problems in residential
areas, and had imposed more parking
requirements which had been turned down
by the Council; later the Council stated
there was a problem parking on the
street; a lack of expressing the rationa
of Commission proposals; does the Counci
want the commission to only do what they
want - because that is the impression
given.
Commissioner Mantegani stated that when
the Commission stated that any addition
of 500 sq. ft. in a residential area had
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2. Land Use Policies - Continued.
to provide an additional parking space
there had been a Council comment, "I
don't understand where the Commission is
coming from." , and then the Mayor had
brought up the thing of not parking on
the street. ~
Mayor Drago stated that the Commission
had been asked if there should be more
parking, and the Commission had said
yes, and then had gone further. He
stated that Councilman Penna had been the
one to start the issue of residential
parking.
Director of Economic & Community
Development Costello stated that the
Commission had initiated and amendment
because of their concern over a lack of
parking for new additions and on-street
parking. She continued, during the time
that was being developed the Council had
concerns over a different perspective.
Commissioner Zellmer stated that the com-
mission had talked about this two years
back.
Councilman Penna stated that he had askec
the Commission to look at it without
knowing the Commission was looking at it
from a different viewpoint due to a lack
of communication.
Commissioner Matteucci reiterated the
need for an open communication between
the two bodies, but did not know how it
could be resolved.
Mayor Drago stated that he did not have I
problem supporting unanimous votes from
the Commission, however, if there was a
minority vote he wanted to see better
minutes made of the meeting because the
minutes were not as complete as they
should be because they were shortcutted.
City Manager Armas stated that staff
tried to convey Commission sentiment on
matters to the Council and the minutes
had tended to be a synopsis of the
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2. Land Use Policies - Continued.
meeting which he thought had been a deci-
sion years ago because of resources.
Councilman Penna suggested that the
Chairman should directly contact the
Mayor for better communications.
Commissioner Zellmer questioned if the
Commission was purely a reactive group.
He stated that people make applications
and the Commission reactst but are there
things to be proactive about, to identify
problems before they occur and plan for
them or does the Commission wait for
direction from staff or the Council.
Mayor Drago stated that these joint
meetings should be held once a year and
that may be the platform to air these
matters.
Commissioner Mantegani suggested the
Chairman write a letter to the Mayor when
there was a problem on the Planning
Commission level, instead of having to
wait a year for a meeting. He also
suggested there be more complete minutes
written of Commission meetings.
Mayor Drago agreed and also suggested
phone calls.
Commissioner Zellmer stated that he
wanted to avoid any sense of lobbying.
Vice Mayor Nicolopulos stated that one of
his concerns was for applicants to presen
new evidence to Council that had not been
seen by the Commission.
Discussion followed: how much flexibi-
lity did staff have on open space with a
developer; that a developer will give the
City unusable space as they had in
Stonegate, and more restrictions should
be put on; don't like two-story; depends
on what part of town they are to be
erected; to know that there are benefits
to the community and not all going to thE
Developer; Commission looking for
guidance on a backup on discipline for
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2. Land Use Policies - Continued.
quality; Commission should put together
a laundry list on what they wanted to see
in a PUD; Councilman Penna wanted to
look at cutting back on parking require-
ments on 5-6 story buildings; Chief
Planner said staff was developing a new
set of policies to be approved and then
to develop PUD, and Commission should
look at defining policies to handle deve-
lopment; Commissioner Zellmer felt they
needed better designs that give amenities
to the community; that a catalyst was
Spruce and Grand and Blonden; concern
over the la~k of regulations to allow the
tommission to put further restrictions or
PUD; pyramiding of preference by
developer.
Commissioner Matteucci questioned if he
had a conflict of interest in that he
owned property in the area of Item 3.
City Attorney Haile stated that there was
not a problem because no action would be
taken, there would only be discussion.
Chairman DeZordo stated that there was a
lot to do in developing better design in
the older neighborhoods.
Councilman Penna stated that there was a
problem of demographics, low income, low
rents in the downtown, and there would
not be any good developments unless you
reverse blight. He stated that he had
written a memo and had been criticized
by the Historic Preservation Commission,
and it seemed that each Agency wanted
something different, and the City did n01
have money to buy a block. He stated
that there was a problem getting quality
merchants in the downtown area.
Chairman DeZordo stated that they needed
to look at neighborhoods surrounding the
downtown.
Discussion followed: Commissioner
Matteucci was upset with alleyways coverl
in graffiti; an example of high density
was Willow and Grand; staff should work
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up Commission views for the downtown for
both residential and commercial and sub-
mit to Council; limits on the size of
residential buildings and establish new
guidelines; making improvements to the
home, that do not involve an additional
bedroom, that is over 2,500 sq. ft.
should be considered to not require an
additional parking space; concern over
multiple family homes coming out of a
single family home by making it into a
duplex; consider allowing granny units
in full basements.
2. Land Use Policies - Continued.
M/S Warren/Matteucci - To adjourn the
Planning Commission meeting.
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
ADJOURNMENT:
Time of adjournment was 7:30 p.m.
3. Review of letter to County regarding
No. County Detention Facility.
City Manager Armas spoke of the draft
letter: the Supervisors meeting next
Tuesday; that Daly City, Brisbane,
Pacifica, San Bruno, and Millbrae were
fighting to restore booking capability
at Mission Road; seek analysis of opera-
tions and levels of service; furnish
information on what a 24 hour operation
would cost; the issue of trying to
restore it to its former level; this has
cost the City $13,000 a month since
January to transport to Redwood City;
Bill 203 says it will stop 6/30/91, etc.
Mayor Drago did not like the last sen-
tence on the first page of the letter,
because he did not believe that it would
cost more to do it any other way which
had been documented years before; so he
did not believe anything should be said
about efficiency. He stated that a
judge he knew could not find the study
from ten years ago that documented the
efficiency of the pre-detention facility
City Manager Armas stated that he would
modify the last paragraph.
M/S Penna/Nicolopulos - To adjourn the
meeting to 4/24/91, 7:05 p.m., Municipal
Services Building, Community Room, for
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the purpose of a Closed Session for labor
negotiations.
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
ADJOURNMENT:
Time of adjournment was 10:18 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
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Barbara A. Battaya, City Clerk
City of South San Francisco
APPROVED.
Jack Drago, Mayor
City of South San Francisco
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