HomeMy WebLinkAbout02.16.94 Minutes
Mayor Joseph A. Fernekes
Council :
Jack Drago
John R. Penna
Roberta Cerri Teglia
Robert Yee
MINUTES
City Council
Municipal Services Building
Community Room
February 16, 1994
AGENDA
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ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
CALL TO ORDER:
(Cassette No.1)
7: 10 p.m. Mayor Fernekes presiding.
ROLL CALL:
Council Present: Drago, Penna, Yee and Femekes,
Council Absent: Teglia.
Planning Commission Members Present: DeZordo,
Lucchesi, Padreddii, Romero, Warren,
Zellmer and Mantegani.
Planning Commission Members Absent: None.
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Ms. Gloria Delong, San Bruno, stated her grand-
parents came here in 1792 and she had been a long
time resident. She stated that her S.S.F. tenants
were going to move out because they don't want a
half-way house on 2nd Lane. She stated this was
inappropriate when there is one on Baden and one in
the 300 block and questioned if the Council was
turning Baden into half-way houses.
She stated the house at 536 2nd Lane is supposed to
be a single family home, however, the builder stuck
in an in-law apartment and was putting in the toilet
and the kitchen. She stated the builder told her he
was going to do that and she told him it was not
legal. She stated that the seller of the property told
the tenant he was sorry that he had to do this to
them, but this was going to be a half-way house for
drug addicts and that the addicts would not have
autos.
She felt this use should not be allowed because it is
a vital issue relating to the safety and protection of
their children.
Ms. Evelyn Martin stated she had a house in front
of the back of this unit, there were two units on the
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Lane, which would block sunshine to her house an<
this particular one faces her kitchen. She stated the
she did not want to have men looking in on her ane
this would change her life style.
She stated that she was here to support the widows
and three single ladies who rent places in the area
and they did not want men like that in the area. Sh
wanted to stress to the Council that there were rats
in the area, because of people being careless with
garbage, brown spots from graffiti being constantly
painted out, she had been robbed four times and a
boy had been knifed.
She stated that Baden and Commercial were becom-
ing the other side of the tracks, yet the history of
this town shows it was the first residential area, and
urged the Council to not let this degradation of a
neighborhood happen. She stated that a current
element in the neighborhood is bad and, if we allow
these people in, they could be bad. She hoped they
would not sell drugs behind her fence, which made
her and all the neighboring women afraid.
Mr. Al Martin, 541 Rocca Ave., stated his concern
for the people in the area living in apartments and,
if they had known about the half-way house, they
would not have moved in.
Mr. Itelli stated he lived across the street from the
half-way house, was already concerned with existing
problems of graffiti and didn't need the problems the
half-way house would bring.
City Manager Wohlenberg stated that, under a ten
year old State law, a six bed or under facility in a
residential area does not require City approvals, as
these are provided at the State level through a li-
cense. He stated that Project 90 was operating
these homes in the community right now and the
Police had not had problems with these facilities.
Assistant City Manager Martel stated there was
currently a total of four of these facilities: 314
Baden Ave., two on Lewis, one on Cypress and
they are all Project 90 facilities. She stated that the
operator told her that 535 2nd Lane will be used for
a drug rehab residential center.
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She was not aware of an in-law apartment, but
would look into it.
Discussion followed: how long the people stay in
the transitional house; whether the property was
exempted from Building Code because of the use _
and, if it was not, then it should be investigated by
code enforcement; the facility had to meet code
requirements; how to protect a neighborhood from (l
proliferation of these facilities; Assistant City Man-
ager related they could not be closer than 300 feet,
however, the two on the site were different uses;
staff should mark a map with the locations of all of
these facilities throughout the City; City Manager
would invite the Director of Project 90 to make a
presentation at the next meeting and answer ques-
tions.
Ms. Janet Scanzi stated that her neighborhood was
ringed with gangs and shootings and she did not feel
this use was suitable in a neighborhood with all of
the existing violence.
1. Joint Meeting with Planning Commission to discuss
items of mutual concern.
Mayor Fernekes welcomed newly appointed Plan-
ning Commissioner Romero.
City Manager Wohlenberg summarized objectives
to be developed: what do you want the community
to look like in the year 2000 in housing and indus-
trial types; determine our strongest assets; become
stronger in biotechnical industries; sharpen vision
for the future and the policies will follow; etc.
Acting Director of Economic & Community Devel-
opment Solomon expressed staff concerns: tension
over the way they were implementing existing City
codes; tension and divergence of the written policy
and the unwritten policy of the Council; develop-
ment of a statement to guide implementation of
ordinances; addressing the redevelopment policies;
to set boundaries on different kinds of construction
or expansion of existing structures or development
of new buildings on a raw site; for Council to look
at the General Plan and Zoning Ordinances.
Planning Commission Chairman Mantegani ex-
pressed concern that the Council upheld the appeal
by Mr. U ccelli for the Salvation Army use on Mis-
sion Road and made the conditions more flexible
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1. Joint Meeting - Continued.
without changing the ordinance.
Councilwoman Teglia noted: they were getting
remote from the people who live here and they
should get out in the neighborhoods and find out
how the people want the community to look in the
future; with respect to the shopping center on Mis-
sion Road, the Commission had done exactly what
the rules show, the Council made a deal because
they did not want to see a shopping center with its
largest building empty, even if it didn't fit with the
rules and regulations; she felt the Commission could
have made the same deal.
Planning Commission Chairman Mantegani question-
ed how the Council could make a deal with only one
property owner.
Councilman Penna related his visions for the City:
densities of 50 to 100 to the acre; sees the hub of
transportation where the station is now and on Air-
port Blvd; a connector taking place with Caltrain
going to 1st Street and connecting with BART going
to Gilroy; sees the entire area between Spruce and
101 having the density of at least 100 to the acre,
rather than 30; parking requirements diminishing
with transportation taking up the slack; saw what
was happening with the Atkinson building as the
catalyst to revamp Orange and Railroad and the
changed use.
He questioned why staff had a problem with codes
and enforcement, when we had been dealing with
the same ones for many years.
Planning Commission Chairman Mantegani stated
that the economic times had changed and there are
structures that people do not want to bring up to
code and are looking for relief. He stated that this
City would not favor a density of 100 units to the
acre.
Councilman Yee stated he had received many calls
during his two years on Council regarding red tape
associated with development and its many complica-
tions. He stated he saw many vacant buildings east
of 101 and tonight the Council had to address the
short term problems, in order to be productive, and
what we are going to do about a solution to the
problems.
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He stated that the code we have now deals with
landscaping of new buildings and is not a problem,
however, with old buildings there is a problem in
meeting the 10% requirement. He stated that, to
make the community viable and grow, changes had
to be made and soon. He stated that different stan-
dards had to be established between the old and new
buildings and the City had to reduce their require-
ments, otherwise the businesses will leave the area;
etc.
Councilman Drago stated there were three areas to
be dealt with: we can't treat the old buildings like
the new buildings, the code had to be changed and
staff has to be more flexible, because he did not
believe that half of these problems should come to
Council.
He did not view staff as the ones to cite codes,
instead they are to find out the intention of the
codes, which are not any different than the Fire
Code. He stated, if buildings could not structurally
meet the code, then you look for the intent and staff
should act reasonably. He stated that, if staff could
not act reasonably, we do not need them and could
bring someone in, however, the main thing is to sit
down and make things work and tell the people how
they can comply.
He related: it was time to go back and review the
General Plan; as for 100 units to the acre - he hoped
he was not around to see it.
Mayor Femekes felt they were missing the boat in a
couple of areas: the planning and permit process
seems to be so cumbersome that there are numerous
complaints; maybe we need a new General Plan but,
in the interim, we have to remedy the problem;
accepting Councilwoman Teglia's idea and getting to
the public to see what they want in their areas; there
should be a concentrated effort to work together and
try to find the whole goals of the City and the needs
for growth - but not 100 units to the acre; BART
was one of the new things happening and Council
had to see how that was going to effect the City;
what was going into the Atkinson property, because
the City had not received plans or concepts; what
was happening with Terrabay.
Planning Commission Chairman Mantegani reiterat-
ed that they had to focus on the permit process. He
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stated they may decide on a further out reach to tht
neighborhoods, but they needed to get direction on
where they were going on the non-conforming stru(
tures.
Discussion followed: there were many problems
in the neighborhoods, one of which was articulated
earlier tonight by residents regarding transitional
uses of homes that deteriorate neighborhoods;
apartments with transients are hot beds; Council-
woman Teglia had been on the Task Force that had
involved the neighborhood and dealt with gangs,
and now that effort had to be taken up again;
the new people coming into the community had new
customs and cultures that are having a profound
influence on the town; the experiment in the
downtown in the 1970's that changed the parking
requirements in the R-3 zone; people were con-
concerned about too many apartment buildings in
with homes; the downward spiral of housing values;
the downtown experiment had not worked in parking
and the problems were intensifying; loosening up
the conditions on parking and landscaping; Council-
man Penna looked at staff as being deal makers
when people come to the City to establish and they
should explain the codes and make them compatible
- and the Planning Commission should assist in
bringing that together.
Planning Commissioner Warren related: there should
be a balance between the residents and the business-
es, rather than giving the City away to one or the
other, which was a disservice; she felt the devel-
opers chronically and historically have said it cost
way too much money, which was on-going rhetoric;
the developers have build 800 and 900 sq. ft.
homes, which are still sitting on the market because
people want bigger homes; single family homes
were selling better than condos, which goes against
the idea of less parking; they were trying to attract
biotechnical businesses, which require good esthetics
and a good community with nice homes in which to
locate.
Discussion followed: Genentech's campus, parking
and master plan; what would happen ten years from
now if Genentech sold their properties and the park-
ing had been waived; Council had to set guidelines
for staff and the Commission if they wanted
them to be deal makers; in deal making, certain
people get what they want and others don't; there
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was a conflict of economic survival, many build-
ings are vacant and the City has to be more flexible;
Commissioner Lucchesi stated everyone looked
like fools on the last appeal because, in one
area, a person had to demolish a third of a building
for required landscaping and parking while, in an-
other part of town, a person didn't want to do that,
appealed and the appeal was upheld; Councilman
Drago felt he and Councilman Yee will, as a Sub-
committee, hopefully enhance the permit process and
invited two members of the Commission to sit on
the Subcommittee; he questioned why a tree was
asked for on a lot when it was not suitable; Council-
man Penna felt staff makes interpretation that allows
houses on 25' lots and they should make sure the
development has quality and not discourage develop-
ment; Commissioner Zellmer stated he was a realist
and there existed two issues - vision and a process;
he stated the system had to be streamlined and made
user friendly without giving the shop away; there
were limited opportunities to improve existing uses;
he agreed with Councilwoman Teglia on changing
the standards on non-conforming uses; staff had to
determine if the project was doable; Commiss-
ioner Padreddii heard many complaints from small
contractors about strict regulations; felt the City was
laughed at because of the rigidity; he felt the serious
problem was with the Design Review Board, which
is composed of outsiders who are over qualified; he
attended a meeting with Genentech, who said they
would do whatever was required, and the Design
Review Board tore their master plan apart; felt the
Board should be deleted or cut down to three peo-
ple; he felt people were doing things without
permits because they don't want a hassle; problem
with a business being vacant for six months, such as
Tony's Hof Brau, and must now comply with codes;
Councilwoman Teglia related that the Design Re-
view Board does not make decisions - the Chief
Planner does; Commissioner DeZordo stated that
people have to face the five members of the Board
who rip them apart when it should be an over-the-
counter discussion with staff; Councilwoman Teglia
felt planners should work with home fixer uppers
and contractors, but big developers come in with big
guns; etc.
Council recessed the meeting at 8:55 p.m.
Mayor Fernekes recalled the meeting to order at
9:12 p.m., all Council and Planning Commissioners
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Mayor Fernekes asked what the Commissioners
wanted to see from Council. He suggested having
another meeting with a facilitator to get something iI
writing because, this way, we are going in circles.
Planning Commission Chairman Mantegani appoint-
ed Commissioners DeZordo and Lucchesi to the
Subcommittee.
Councilwoman Teglia commented: there was a risk
in people doing work without permits today because
they still had to conform to the rules and codes;
Council made a deal with the shopping center be-
cause, at the time it was developed, there were no
standards - so they had to make the call for the less
than 10% landscaping in view of economic condi-
tions, neighborhood problems and not wanting this
large space to remain empty; when businesses leave
the City they inform the City in advance and usually
it's for corporate reasons; there had been previous
flexibility of Council, depending on an individual's
last name, in bending the rules.
Discussion followed: letting staff draw up guide-
lines and come back to both Bodies; why not give it
to the Subcommittee rather than staff, otherwise they
will come up with a wish list; Councilman Penna
was concerned staff is telling developers they have
to pay for initial studies and who they will use; City
Attorney related that must be done due to CEQA
rules; Councilman Penna questioned why staff could
not do it, instead they are saying there must be a
peer review - where another consultant is hired to do
the work; staff was using the PUD process to in-
crease flexibility and provides for quid pro quo and
a bending of the rules; could the Commission get
benefit back from the applicant, such as a park,
dedicated open space, a contribution or something
for the community; a standard had to be set after
Council is in agreement.
Councilman Drago was in agreement with a standard
being set.
Councilman Yee said no, the reason for the pun
was its uniqueness and, if you set a standard, how
do you change when the PUDs intent is flexibility.
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1. Joint Meeting - Continued.
Discussion followed: applicants play the Council
against the Planning Commission; Councilman Yee
felt the City should get something back from the
applicant; does the Council want a trade-off and
should the Commission be proactive on the trade-
offs; Councilman Penna would rather see park fees
than a park; Commissioner Warren wanted to en-
courage private streets to take the burden off the
City.
Consensus of Council - For the Planning Commis-
sion to work with flexibility.
Planning Commissioner DeZordo stated there had
been requests to make condos out of duplexes and
triplexes by splitting lots and felt this could improve
the neighborhood.
Discussion followed: Council was waiting for rec-
ommendations from the Commission on lot splits; to
make it work, they must relax. parking standards for
older residences; a developer had refurbished a
home, built a new home and could not sell either or
both; could require two parking spaces, but you
can't split a duplex; Building Division personnel
need "happy classes"; should also look at informa-
tion being handed out to the public; non-conforming
uses and perhaps extending the six months; current
procedure on EIR process; under CEQA guidelines,
if project is not exempt then there are stipulating
guidelines of an EIR or an expanded initial study;
staff might hire someone for concerns and owner
pays for it; given cuts Council made, staff can't do
work; staff does not have someone versed on traffic
and toxics and needs to hire a professional to review
another professional.
MIS DeZordo/Warren - To adjourn the Planning
Commission meeting.
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
PLANNING COMMISSION ADJOURNMENT:
Time of adjournment was 10:00 p.m.
2. Closed Session for the purpose of the discussion of
personnel matters, labor relations, property negotia-
tions and litigation.
Council adjourned to a Closed Session at 10:01 p.m.
for litigation, pursuant to GC 54956.9a, City of
S.S.F. vs. EPOCH (aka Shearwater), City of S.S.F.
vs. Crown Sterling Suites, S.S.F. Ys. South City
Ford, and personnel matters, pursuant to GC 54957,
performance of Assistant City Attorney.
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RECALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Femekes recalled the meeting to order at
10:45 p.m., all Council was present, no action was
taken.
Councilman Yee requested an agenda item for the
first meeting in March from the City Manager on
the financial status of the Oyster Point Interchange
Proj ect.
MIS Drago/Yee - To adjourn the meeting.
Carried by unanimous voice vote.
ADJOURNMENT:
Time of adjournment was 10:46 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITrED,
APPROVED.
Barbara A. Battaya, City Cler
City of South San Francisco
Joseph A. Femekes, Mayor
City of South San Francisco
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