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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MUNICIPAL SERVICES BUILDING
33 ARROYO DRIVE
September 18, 1997
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chairman ROlnero, Vice-Chairman Barnett, Comlnissioner Honan,
Commissioner Sim,
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Comlnissioner Masuda, Comlnissioner Teglia, Commissioner Baldocchi
Engineering Division
Water Quality Control Plant
Marty Van Duyn
Jim Harnish
Allison Knapp-Wollam
Mike Lappen
Wayne Snodgrass
Sgt. Ron Petrocchi
Sgt. Mike Massoni
Richard Hannon
Ray Honan
ALSO PRESENT:
Planning Division
City Attorney
Police Dept.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
February 20, 1997 and August 21, 1997.
Due to lack ofa quorum, the Minutes of February 20,1997 were continued to the meeting of October 2,
1997. Commissioner ROlnero requested corrections to the August 21, 1997 minutes on: Page 3, paragraph
four, line four, and line 10; Page 4, paragraph one, line three; Page 5, paragraph one, line eight and paragraph
two, line seven. Comlnissioner Sitn requested a review of Page 6 last line, he thinks it should read Sim and
Masuda opposed.
Motion/Sim - Second/Barnett to approve the August 21, 1997 Minutes with requested changes.
Unanimously approved by voice vote.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
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CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Genentech Research & Development Overlay District, Annual Report, as provided by S SFMC
Section 20.39.080; proposed amendlnent to zoning ordinance of the "Research & Development
Overlay District Regulations" (Chapter 20.39) and the "Genentech Research & Development Overlay
District" regulations (Chapter 20.40); Previously Approved Negative Declaration No. 805 for DR-
95-999. (Stalfreconl1llends continuance to October 2, 1997)
2. 1350 San Mateo Avenue
Applicant: George A vanessian; Owner: Robert Chang
UP-97-058, Categorical Exelnption Class 1, Section 15301 (2) (a)
Use Permit to allow construction ofa 9,053 square foot addition to an existing office and warehouse
building, totaling 15,742 square feet, and conversion of the building from single to multi-tenant
occupancy at 1350 San Mateo Avenue in the M-1 Industrial Zone District in accordance with SSFMC
20.30.040 (h). (Stalfreco111111ends continuance to October 2, 1997)
3. 490 Noor Avenue
Owner/Applicant: Syufy Enterprises
UP-97-059, Certified Negative Declaration 792
Use Permit to allow construction of a 12,950 sq. ft. retail/commercial building with a drive-thru
window, in accordance with SSFMC 20.24.070 (a). (St(~[freco111111ends continuance to October
2, 1997)
Motion Sim - Second Barnett to approve the consent calendar. Unanimously approved by voice vote.
PUBLIC HEARING - AGENDA ITEM
4. Cultural Arts Ordinance
Applicant: City of South San Francisco
ZA-97-014, Categorical Exelnption Class I, Section 15301 (h)
Amendments to the South San Francisco Municipal Code Title 20 Zoning Regulations adding
Chapter 20.101 Cultural Arts Regulations and revising Chapter 20.73 Landscaping, Buffering, and
Screening Regulations allowing the Planning cOl1unission to reduce on-site landscape area and require
in-lieu fee contributions to the City's cultural arts fund.
Consulting Planner, K.napp- W ollmn presented the staff report. She stated that the Ordinance applies only
to developed non-confonning parcel; will not allow reduction of landscaping below that which currently
exists on the site; and is intended to address the applicant who comes in and wants to change or intensify land
use, but does not Ineet the code. In these situations the Planning Commission could allow an in-lieu fee to
be paid. Under the Ordinance the Planning COlnlnission would review the application for credit and, if
granted, the in-lieu fee would go to a fund administered by the Cultural Arts COlnlnission.
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Mr. Dennis Crossland, representing the Cultural Arts Commission, spoke of the Commission's desire to
improve areas such, as was done on Hickey Boulevard, through collaborative efforts.
Ms. Karyl Matsulnoto, representative for the Cultural Arts Commission complimented the Planning
Commission for their efforts. She indicated that their goal is to provide the City with art through murals and
other art work that will enhance the appearance of the City for all residents. She spoke of the extent by
which the community is growing and the importance of making children aware of, and teaching them to
appreciate art, and added that the Cultural Arts Commission is hoping to work in concert with other entities
to provide this for the cOlnmunity.
The Public Hearing was closed.
Commissioner Honan requested an explanation on how the in lieu fee would be collected. Chief Planner
Harnish explained that they would pay it like any other fee at the Building permit stage, and cited an example
of the Oyster Point Interchange Fee.
Commissioner Barnett asked if the fee would be used in the proxilnity of the property for which it is
collected, or throughout the City. Mr. Crossland responded that his understanding is that it would be used
to enhance areas where the majority of the public could enjoy, such as entrances to the City. He added that
most of the fee would probably go into sculptures and landscaping. Commissioner Barnett asked if the
original option for the developer to put sOlnething on the property instead of paying the in lieu fee had been
eliminated at the recommendation of the Cultural Atis Comlnission. Mr. Crossland stated that it had been,
and explained that they are learning as they go along, but the in lieu fee would not be optional. He added that
anyone who wanted to contribute to art would be encouraged and considered. He cited examples such as
Genentech with the Wind Harp, and the Hickey project where Shell Oil contributed. Mr. Harnish explained
that the original proposal was expanded following research of landscaping already taking place and then
revised to address the issues raised by C0111mission. In situations where the landscaping was in excess of
10%, a reduction was somewhat artificial only developed propeliies that can't meet minimum requirements
would pay in lieu fees to provide enhancelnent to the environment, expanded by art work, not necessarily on
the site being developed.
Commissioner Sim welcOlned Ms. Matsumoto and Mr. Crossland and added that this was a great proposal
which generates revenue. He asked whether the Planning COlnmission would have the opportunity to oversee
the art. Mr. Harnish stated that the Cultural Arts C01111nission reports to the City Council, and would not
go before the Planning Commission, but would need to cOlnply with City Ordinances. Commissioner Honan
asked if this would apply to new develop111ent only. Mr. Harnish stated that it would be up to the Planning
Commission to determine when in lieu fees are paid, and once they are paid, the Cultural Arts Commission
will determine how they are spent.
Chairman Romero raised questions about the Hickey Boulevard - Shell Oil landscaping project referred to
by Mr. Crossland. He questioned the use of City staff for installing landscape and accepting responsibility
for ongoing maintenance of an area where a development was reviewed by the Planning Commission and
Council, and which Shell as the developer was responsible for providing. He raised questions on who
designed the project, whether it was approved by Caltrans or cleared by the Planning Division, and raised
concerns of reports he has received that the sign is too small and facing the wrong direction. He suggested
that it might be wise for the Cultural Arts Con11nission to avail themselves to the design deview process to
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avoid these type of concerns. Assistant City Attorney Snodgrass cautioned that the item was not on the
agenda and no action could be taken. Mr. Crossland stated that they had asked Shell as a good neighbor
policy to provide funds for the project, they provided Shell with plans for the theme, which Shell accepted.
Together with Shell they developed a sculpture with rocks which were contributed by the quarry, and placed
landscaping of color spots and lawn area. He added that it is not Shell who bears responsibility for the manner
in which this was handled, but the Cultural Arts COln111ission. He stated that hopefully they have learned
something from this, al1d future areas should be evaluated closer, and agreed with the suggestion that the
Design Review Board could be involved. Chairman Romero stated that early in the process, both
Commissions should have met and discussed some of these problems, however this is not going to happen
at this stage of the process and now his hope is that Council will question if the two have met.
Chairman Romero added that projects adjacent to developments approved by the Planning Commission
should be discussed with the Planning COlnmission.
Ms. Matsomoto volunteered to provide copies of the minutes frOln their meetings to the Planning
Commission to keep them advised of what is happening.
In response to a question by Chainnan Romero whether the Ordinance complies with General Plan; Assistant
City Attorney Snodgrass responded that this only applies to non-conforming uses. Chief Planner Harnish
added that this provides for a way to comply with General Plan - not by percentage but by providing for he
10% minimum which is the same objectives of the General Plan. This is an alternative way of doing this.
Ms. Matsumoto explained that Cultural Atis Comlnission is Inore into art work, not landscaping. Monies
they obtained would go toward purchasing sculptures, and murals etc.
Sims Motion! Barnett second to approve. Motion was unanimously approved by voice vote.
Recess called at 8:30 p.ln.
Meeting recalled to order 8: 40
5. 203 Linden Avenue
Applicant: At1sehno Revelo; Owner: Robeli Giorgi
UP-97-054, Categorical Exemption Class 1, Section 15301
Use Permit to allow a commercial recreation use (karaoke, live bands and dancing) with hours of
operation froln 10:00 a.1n. until 2:00 a.ln., seven days a week, within an existing bar and full service
restaurant at 203 Linden Avenue, in the Downtown COlnmercial (D-C) Zone District, in accordance
with SSFMC 20.26.060 (a).
Consulting Planner Lappen presented the staff report. He stated that staffis recolnlnending approval of the
application, provided that the proposed conditions as outlined in the staff report are Inet. He added that the
applicant has shown interest in obtaining block grant assistance for the sign permit. Staff has requested that
the applicant work with staff to design a sign which is compatible with existing signs in the downtown area.
He further added that staff is recommending denial of the request for live band, and requesting a limited
number of coin operated devices.
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The applicant, Mr. Anselmo Revelo stated that he will re-sublnit plans for the sign, and work with staff to
comply with their recolnn1endations. He added that he is in agreelnent with all conditions except the
condition requiring a unifonned security guard, and the request for denial of a live band. He stated that he
is currently operating a full bar and restaurant and dancing is only an incidental part of the operation. He
expressed a concern that considering the cOlnposition of his clientele which is comprised of approximately
80% filipino; they may look at the security guard in a negative way, which could prove detrimental to his
business. He stated that he had operated the same business at Armour and Airport for fifteen years with no
security guard, and felt that the relationship between Bahay Kubo and the Police Department during those
years had been good. With reference to the band, he stated that he is requesting a three piece band comprised
of a keyboard, guitar and a vocalist who will entertain the patrons while they are eating. He expressed a
concern that eliIninating the band would leave hiln without a theIne for his business.
Karin Gruber spoke in support of the applicant and presented the Commission with background on the
karaoke shows at the previous location, and photos depicting prior activities at Bahay Kubo, which she
described as having a great atmosphere, and without incidents. She expressed a concern for the requirement
to provide a security guard, due to what she described as inadquate training provided to many of the security
guards.
The Public Hearing was closed.
Chairman Romero requested history from the Police Department. Seargent Ron Petrocchi indicated that he
did not have statistical data for problems at the previous location, however this was a different location with
different circumstances. He stated that if the Commission wanted further statistical data, they could proivde
it. He stated that ulike the previous location which was free standing, this location is adjacent to other
establishments, and that this application falls under a different set of circumstances. He stated that the
previous Use Pennit was obtained before the existing dance ordinance, which requires a security guard for
any dance establishment. He stated that other similar penmts have been even more stringent in that they have
required two security guards. He further indicated that while he is not aware of any previous problems, the
previous establishment was not totally trouble free.
Seargent Petrocchi cited other karaoke establishments who have been required to comply with these
conditions, with no reports of a negative effect on the business, and perhaps the opposite, a security guard
provides patrons with a sense of security. He pointed to the fact that the owner has no control over the
patrons, since the establishment is open to the public. He stated that the condition which staffhas imposed
for the band, is an effort to Inonitor noise standards which is different for equiplnent (which can be
monitored), from a live band (which does not lend itself to that). Seargent Petrocchi concluded by stating
that the Police Department has recently received reports of card playing activities taking place upstairs in the
establishment, consequently he would recomlnend that one other condition be added to eliminate card playing
activities.
Vice Chairman Barnett questioned how minors would be prevented frOln the dance/bar area of the business.
Seargent Petrocchi pointed to previous conditions imposed that no dancing could be started until minors
vacate the pren1ises. Chainnan ROlnero asked if they have had any difficulty ilnposing those conditions.
Seargent Petrocchi stated that periodically, they have had to work with Inanagement, however they have
found that the conditions as written have been successful in controlling this concern. Commissioner Sim
asked how close the nearest residential units were. Seargent Petrocchi stated that they are upstairs, and
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behind. Commissioner Sitn asked whether other karaoke establishlnents are monitored as part of the approval
for a year, or six months. Seargent Petrocchi stated that he thought they were, but could not be sure. He
added that they are monitored on an ongoing basis, and if any problelns occurred they are brought back to
the Commission without hesitation.
Commissioner Honan asked about the reference in the staff report to lilnited dancing, what is it, and how will
it be enforced. Seargent Petrocchi explained that dancing is an accessory use, not primary to to the bar and
restaurant. He added that sometilnes after approval, the use is expanded Inaking dance a primary activity.
Further questions were posed by COlnmissioners Honan and Siln on whether the restaurant would be in use
after minors are vacated, whether a cover charge would be in effect, and whether the city has any areas with
live bands. Seargent Petrocchi responded that since the business is expected to generate 51 % or more of
their revenue has to be derived from the eating establishlnent, he believed that the restaurant would continue
beyond the time when the Ininors are vacated. He did not know if there would be a cover charge, but added
that it could be a positive thing. At1d he indicated that all rental halls and dance facilities have live dance
mUSIC.
Chairman Romero stated that the repoli is missing a site plan and layout presentation, and wanted to know
if both the bar and restaurant area are are included. Mr. Lappen stated that site plan submitted to the
Building Division for the kitchen upgrade pennits shows the bar, dance, and restaurant area in the same
location.
Commissioner Barnett stated that he has Inajor safety concerns on whether issues such as the staircase, which
in the past was not up to code, bare studs, and lack of fire door attic in the area above the site have been
addressed. Mr. Harnish stated that these issues have not been addressed in this permit. The Building and Fire
Departments are responsible for bringing any substandard conditions up to code. He added that the Building
Department has red tagged some deficiencies; and any substandard conditions are brought up to code prior
to occupancy. COlnlnissioner Barnett asked if this building is subject to earthquake retrofitting. Chief
Planner Harnish did not know and deferred to the Assistant City Attorney. Mr. Snodgrass stated that he was
prepared to respond to the legal requirelnents for private structures for retrofitting, and offered to look into
that.
Commissioner Sim stated that he was very concerned with the safety issues raised by Commissioner Barnett
and agreed with Chairman ROlnero that it would have been beneficial to have a visual presentation.
Commissioner Honan spoke of her concerns about the subject before theln addressing approval for activities
on one floor, but the discussions now including upstairs units. Her concern was that the restaurant and bar
area may have access to the upstairs residential units, and questioned how the Police Departlnent would be
able to monitor. Chief Planner Harnish stated that the permit is for a dance and sign permit only, and
residential areas are not regulated by this per111it. It was ultimately detennined that the upstairs areas of
concern to Commissioner Barnett were for storage area and the Inanager's office above the site and did not
include the residential units which are separated and not accessible frOln this site.
Mr. Harnish stated that he will ask the applicant to put a floor plan together, and have the Building
Department address the upstairs storage and office area for safety issues. Chainnan Romero requested that
the site plan include the first and second level. Comlnissioners Sim and Honan raised an issue of the
proximity of the parking facilities serving this establishment, and having someone present to address the
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adequacy of parking. Mr. Harnish stated that the area is within the Parking District, which provides parking
for the downtown area and the assumption is that the parking is adequate, without the need to review each
use to address parking issues. Chairman ROlnero suggested that this ite111 be continued to the next meeting.
He expressed his concern that pennits for the kitchen were approved before the Commission had the
opportunity to review the penuit. Mr. Lappen stated that the permit was only to update the previous kitchen
area. The entertaimnent use and operation of the business after Inidnight requires a Use Permit in the
downtown area according to the Municipal Code.
Motion Barnett/Siln Second to continue to October 2, 1997 Meeting. Unanimously approved by voice vote.
ADMINISTRA TIVE BUSINESS
6. Request direction from the COlnmission on filling vacancy for Design Review Board Member.
The Commission was infonned by Mr. Harnish that in addition to the one vacancy reported at the last
meeting, he has received word that the other South San Francisco resident has also resigned. After
discussions on whether to select from the current pool or making changes to solicit residents only;
the Comlmssion determined that Mr. Harnish should pursue the issue by seeking a formal solicitation
of new applicants to insure the best candidates are given the opportunity to compete.
7. Items froln Staff
a. Report back regarding Heather Heights.
Mr. Harnish reported that he and Chairman Romero Inet with the project representative and his
architect at the site and looked at the rail and the large retaining wall. They discussed some options
in dealing with the rail. He added that he received some drawings a week ago with three different
design alternatives. The Design Review Board reviewed theln on Tuesday and gave some preliminary
cOlnlnents, however staff has not had the opportunity to discuss the comlnents. The project
representative also submitted some photos of a vine covered cyclone fence which looks better than
anticipated. He indicated that he is preparing to reproduce the photos, and provide better illustrations
of the drawings submitted for the rail which provide three design alternatives which he would like to
present the Commission at the October 2, 1997 Ineeting. He added that the Design Review Board
likes the idea of eA1ending the rod iron style fence around development and painting the rail the same
color as the metal fence. Chainnan ROlnero requested that a letter go out to Mr. Garcia also
reminding him to submit a visual presentation of the Initigation measures to the wall. Mr. Harnish
indicated that the architect, who appears to have quite a bit of experience in this area, has indicated
they will be putting in more plant material, and that the plan is to have the architect present at the
meeting along with Mr. Garcia.
b. Discussion of Project Review Procedures.
Mr. Harnish suggested waiting until the October 2, 1997 meeting since Commissioner Baldocchi was
very interested in this, and also due to the relnaining members being absent tonight. Chairman
Romero requested that SOlne written material be provided to the Commission for review prior to the
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meeting.
c. Consideration of Special Meeting on 10/9/97.
Chief Planner Harnish advised the COlnlnission of the need to discuss two significant projects:
1. Bay West Cove (formerly Shearwater). The EIR is being circulated, and the comment
period is close to completion. This is a Redevelopment project, but Commission will
be reviewing it, and several elements of this will require the Commission's approval.
2. Terrabay - Phase 2 and 3. This is a complex project and will probably require two
study sessions.
Mr. Harnish stated that discussions on both of these projects will require a significant amount of time,
and suggested a special study session be scheduled for October 9, 1997 to devote time strictly to
these two items. COlnmissioner Romero agreed that a special meeting should be scheduled in order
for the Commission to devote a sufficient amount of tilne.
Chairman ROlnero requested that the Comlnission be given a calendar of events for the October
activities, since so Inany things are scheduled for October. Mr. Harnish agreed and advised the
Commission that he is working on a computer system to track longer range projections of activities.
8. Items from COlnlnission
With reference to the list provided to the COlnlnission's concerns regarding signs. Chairman
ROlnero stated that he had been asked by COlnlnissioner Teglia to bring up concerns for some other
businesses on Grand, not included on this list. Mr. Harnish stated that be thinks those have been
referred to Code Enforcement, but he will follow up again.
Commissioner Sim repolied a concern with the trash container by Ong Pin Noodle, and questioned
whether it should be enclosed. He also spoke of the need to have a basic document on every project
which would provide as much information as possible to the COlnmission, without overburdening the
applicant.
Chainnan ROlnero reported a concern with the Montegrano Beer Distributers on Forbes Boulevard.
He stated that they are parking vehicles right up to the sidewalk on both sides of the driveway leaving
very little rOOln for vehicles to turn into the facility. Parking is being over utilized which could cause
a problem for Fire Dept in an elnergency. He has no recollection of this being part of the Conditions
of Approval.
9. Itelns from the Public
None.
10. Adjournment to Special Meeting on October 1, 1997 - Joint City Council/Planning Commission.
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Motion Sims/second Honan to adjourn to the Special Meeting October 1, 1997 - Joint City
Council/Planning Comlnission. Motion passed by unanimous vote.
Meeting adjourned 10:00 p.m.
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William ROlnero, Chairman
Planning Commission
City of South San Francisco
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