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MINUTES
March 17, 2005
CITY OF SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION
CALL TO ORDER / PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
TAPE 1
7:30 D.m.
Commissioner Giusti, Commissioner Honan, Commissioner Prouty, Commissioner Romero,
Commissioner Sim, Vice Chairperson Zemke and Chairperson Teglia
ABSENT:
None
STAFF PRESENT:
Planning Division:
Thomas C. Sparks, Chief Planner
Susy Kalkin, Principal Planner
Steve Carlson, Senior Planner
Bertha Aguilar, Admin. Asst. II
Kimberly Johnson, Assistant City Attorney
Dennis Chuck, Traffic Engineer
Sergeant Alan Normandy, Planning Liaison
Brian Niswonger, Assistant Fire Marshall
City Attorney:
Engineering Division:
Police Department:
Fire Prevention.
CHAIR COMMENTS
AGENDA REVIEW No Changes
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS None
CONSENT CALENDAR None
1. Approval of Regular Meeting Minutes of January 20, 2005, February 3, 2005 and February 17, 2005.
Motion Giusti / Second Sim to approve the Consent Calendar. Commissioner Sim abstained from the February
17,2005 minutes. Approved by majority voice vote.
PUBLIC HEARING
2. Starbucks Coffee
Armanino, Rosemary/Owner
Starbucks (Zeden Jones)/ Applicant
329 Grand Ave.
POS-0012: UPOS-0003 &. DROS-0010
Use Permit to allow a 1,776 sq. ft. coffee shop with an approximately 192 square-foot outdoor seating area in an
existing building at 329 Grand Avenue in the Downtown Commercial (D-C-L) Zoning District in accordance with
SSFMC Chapters 20.26 & 20.81.
Public Hearing opened.
Principal Planner Kalkin presented the staff report.
Zeden Jones, Starbucks, noted that he was available to answer any questions.
Marceline Mahern, Development Manager, noted that she has been trying to find a second location in South San
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Francisco, noted that they are good neighbors and are active in the community.
Tamara Thorne, District Manager, noted that Starbucks gets involved in the neighborhood. She pointed out that
the new store will create 15-20 new jobs and that their stores stimulate commercial corridors.
Ritch Kelly, Gateway Starbucks Store Manager, pointed out that his customers consistently ask for a second store
in South San Francisco. He noted that they recently participated with the Peninsula Human Society in a fundraiser
for pets-in-need.
Commissioner Honan asked why customers ask for a second Starbucks. Mr. Kelly noted that the local residents go
across the freeway to buy their coffee and they see the need to have one on the west side of 101.
Those speaking in opposition were:
Danielle Robert Tim & Stephanie Miller Lisa DeMattei Denise Pozzo Sandra Nichols
Their comments were:
~ There are two community coffee houses that will be affected.
~ There will be too many Starbucks stores in the City.
~ Lack of parking on Grand Avenue
~ Small coffee shops cannot compete with a chain store like Starbucks
~ Starbucks are appropriate in new strip malls but not in downtown.
~ Jobs being lost due to neighborhood coffee shops not making necessary revenues.
~ Preserving the downtown area for "mom and pop" businesses rather than for large corporations.
~ Double-parking issues on Grand Avenue.
A petition to keep Starbucks out of the Downtown area was submitted by Denise Pozza to the Planning
Commission.
Public Hearing closed.
Commissioner Sim asked if there was a strategic master plan of the locations considered in South San Francisco
and what the rationale was for placement of stores. Mr. Jones noted that most customers choose Starbucks
because of its convenient location. Ms. Mahern noted that they are planning to locate in the transit village zone
but do not have a lease for the site yet.
Commissioner Sim asked why some Starbucks stores have a lounge area in them and others do not. Ms. Mahern
noted that there are stores that are built for convenience, mostly for the commuter, and others are set with a
comfortable gathering atmosphere.
Commissioner Giusti noted that there will be an area for customers to sit and have their coffee but also wanted
the applicant to be aware that there is a soup kitchen in the area and some other people may chose to congregate
in that area as well.
Commissioner Prouty was concerned with the impact that Starbucks would have on other coffee shops in the area.
Mr. Jones noted that the local coffee shops have a customer base and they have a human connection such that
the customers become loyal to the shops in the area. Ms. Mahern noted that they do not have an impact on other
coffee shops. She noted that they are not trying to take customers from Morning Brew or Hot Shots and believe
that they will provide another coffee shop choice for South San Francisco. With regards to the traffic issues stated
by the speakers, Ms. Mahern noted that in the city of Burlingame they were asked to provide a traffic study before
they opened and 6 months after opening. She stated out that the traffic was not impacted in either study.
Commissioner Honan asked why a 6, 12 and 18 month review has been proposed on the application. Sergeant
Normandy noted that they included the condition as an added measure to be able to review the application at a
later time and see if there are any adverse impacts to the area.
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Commissioner Honan asked what the action of the Parking Place Commission was on the application. Principal
Planner Kalkin noted that the Commission reviewed the area and granted the parking exception with the
determination that the adjacent lots could absorb the 35 parking spaces needed. Mr. Jones added that 52% of
their business is before 10 a.m. Mr. Kelly pointed out that 70% of his business in the East of 101 location is in the
morning.
Commissioner Romero was concerned with the security in the outdoor seating area and with potential parking and
traffic issues on Grand Avenue. Vice Chairperson Zemke echoed Commissioner Romero's concerns.
Chairperson Teglia noted that the Commission was having concerns with the oversaturation of coffee shops in the
downtown. Assistant City Attorney Johnson noted that this site is in the Downtown Redevelopment Plan Area and
therefore the concerns stated by the Commission have been addressed through the redevelopment plan. If the
Commission felt that they would not approve the project staff would have to review the plan to conform the
findings for denial of the project.
Commissioner Romero noted that General Plan Goal 3.1 encourages development of pedestrian friendly businesses
and this does not seem to be pedestrian friendly.
Commissioner Honan noted that there is not another place on Grand Avenue that Starbucks will fit and noted that
the project can be reviewed in 6-months and if it poses a problem during those six months the Commission can
take further action. Commissioner Prouty felt that the project may help the local businesses by bringing additional
shoppers to the a rea.
Chairperson Teglia asked if the alley could accommodate angled parking. Principal Planner Kalkin noted that
angled parking cannot be accommodated on the site per the zoning requirements.
Commissioner Honan questioned how double parking can be controlled. Sergeant Normandy noted that there are
2 Parking Enforcement Officers assigned to the area that monitor it and give citations as necessary.
Motion Sim I Second Giusti to approve P05-0012: UP05-0003 & DR05-0010.
Ayes: Commissioner Giusti, Commissioner Honan, Commissioner Prouty, Commissioner Sim
Noes: Commissioner Romero, Vice Chairperson Zemke and Chairperson Teglia
No one was absent and no one abstained. Approved by majority roll call vote.
3. Charles K. Ng/applicant
Charles K. Ng/owner
111 Chestnut Ave.
P02-0020: AHA02-0001, RZ-02-0002, SA02-0001, PUD02-0002 & ND02-0002
Rezoning of the property from Medium Density Residential (R-2-H) to High Density Residential (R-3-L), Tentative
Subdivision Map allowing 8 parcels and common area, Planned Unit Development and Design Review allowing
eight new dwelling units, smaller lots than the minimum requirement of 5,000 sq ft, reduced minimum required
setback and a parking rate of 3 per dwelling unit, and an Affordable Housing Agreement for the property located at
111 Chestnut Avenue in the Medium Density Residential (R-2-H) Zoning District in accordance with SSFMC Title 19
and Chapters 20.78, 20.85, 20.87 & 20.125
Senior Planner Carlson presented the Staff Report.
Simon Kwan, Architect, gave a history of the various changes to the plans and the meetings held with the Planning
Commission, Design Review Board and the neighborhood. He added that they responded to the Commission's and
the neighbors concerns. He added that they added full-grown trees to screen buildings, they also added a metal
fence to screen guest parking from play areas, and other design elements to the buildings. He noted that they
modified the ground floor level bathroom to be a 112 bathroom and in some units took out the bathroom.
Public Hearing opened. There being no speakers the Public Hearing was closed.
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Subcommittee ReDort
Commissioner Romero mentioned that the subcommittee tried to find a way of eliminating the boxy look and break
up the roofline. He felt that the final design showed all the comments given by the Commission and
subcommittee. Chairperson Teglia noted that they were concerned with the presence on Chestnut and the
applicant added balconies, windows and extended the overhangs.
Commission Comments
Commissioner Prouty noted that he has reviewed all the information provided at previous meetings and has
reviewed the minutes of meetings this item has been discussed and is comfortable with making a decision on the
proposal. He pointed out that he liked the 4 in 12 pitch on the roofs but on units 1 and 8 there is not enough
slope and appear to be flat. He felt that the roofs should fit in with the surrounding neighborhoods. He noted
that he could support the project if units 1 and 8 have a 4 in 12 roof pitch otherwise, he could not support the
project. Mr. Kwan noted that he tried to keep a low profile on the front of the site but noted that from an
architectural point of view the roof pitch can be altered. Vice Chairperson Zemke and Chairperson Teglia
concurred with making the roof pitch because it would hide the building mass in the back.
Commissioner Honan asked if the play area's metal fence would be landscaped. Chairperson Teglia noted that the
subcommittee felt that they wanted a fence that would allow for parents to monitor their children while they are
playing and at the same time protect the play area from cars.
Commissioner Prouty noted that he walked the neighborhood and noted that one of the neighbors was concerned
with privacy and suggested that there be a sound barrier, such as a 10 foot tall fence surrounding the project. Mr.
Kwan noted that this would be a massive fence and resolved that they would have full grown trees provide a
natural buffer between the properties. Commissioner Prouty asked if the Homeowners Association would maintain
the landscaping. He also pointed out that the Association fees are too low to allow for the landscaping to be
maintained and that the fee should be increased in the CC&Rs. Assistant City Attorney Johnson noted that the
CC&Rs before the Commission are not the final documents. She pointed out the final CC&Rs will be approved by
the Council and any modifications would be made then.
Motion Sim / Romero approve resolution #2641-2005 recommending that the City Council approve the proposed
project with the additional suggestions of including a 4 and 12 pitched roof for homes 1 and 8, and exploring the
possibility of adding a fence to the proposal.
Commissioner Romero added that the fence and the design be discussed with the adjacent property owners.
Assistant City Attorney Johnson noted that this could be an additional Condition of approval that the developer
meet with the adjacent property owners and give their consent for the fence to be installed and then return to the
Commission in 6 months.
Commissioner Sim and Commissioner Romero concurred with Assistant City Attorney Johnson in adding the
Condition of Approval to the recommendation for approval.
Approved by unanimous voice vote.
Chairperson Teglia asked that the final redesign for the roof be forwarded to the Commission.
ADMINISTRATIVE BUSINESS
ITEMS FROM STAFF
. Planning Commission update on laws, regulations, and procedures.
Chief Planner Sparks asked the Commission to continue the item due to the hour.
Motion Prouty Second Sim to continue the item to April 7, 2005.
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Assistant City Attorney Johnson noted noted that she would be looking at revised laws, timelines, Density Bonus
ordinance changes and densities on projects. She suggested that the Commission review their Commissioners
Handbook and e-mail specific questions to her for response during the discussion.
ITEMS FROM COMMISSION
None
ITEMS FROM THE PUBLIC
None
ADJOURNMENT
9:58 P.M.
Motion Prouty / Second Giusti to adjourn the meeting. Approved by unanimous voice vote.
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Secretary to the Planning Commission
City of South San Francisco
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Marc C. Teglia, Chairperson
Planning Commission
City of South San Francisco
NEXT MEETING:
Regular Meeting April 7, 2005, Municipal Services Building, 33 Arroyo Drive, South San Francisco,
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