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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 11/13/1986 (Cassette No.1) November 13, 1986 Regular Meeting of the South San Francisco Planning Cormnission. MEMBERS PRESENT: Chair Wendler, Vice Chair Boblitt, Commissioners Agee, Getz, Hoyer, Martin and Terry. ALSO PRESENT: Planning Division Jean T. smith Dan Christians Philip Gorny Deputy City Manager/City Engineer Robert Yee Police Department Ron petrocchi Building Division Ray Laur PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Motion-Martin/Second Agee. To approve the Minutes for the October 9, 1986 Planning Commission meeting. Approved by the following roll call vote: AYES: Chair Wendler, Vice Chair Boblitt, Commissioners Agee and Martin. ABSTAINED: Commissioners Getz, Hoyer and Terry. Motion-Getz/Second Terry: To approve the Minutes of October 23, 1986 Planning Commission meeting. Approved by the following roll call vote: AYES: Chair Wendler, Commissioners Agee, Getz, Hoyer, Martin and Terry. ABSTAINED: Vice Chair Boblitt. AGENDA CHANGES Chair Wendler announced that Agenda Item ~3, Cornish and Carey, PM- 85-239, would not be heard because their extension request would not be necessary for another year. AGENDA ITEMS (PUBLIC HEARINGS) Schoebers Athletic Club (Landsing Realty Partners II, owner), UP-75-314/Mod 1, Negative Declaration No. 567, 417 Eccles Avenue continued from the October 23, 1986 Planning Commission meeting. PC MTG. 11/13/86 Page 1 of 7 Pages AGENDA ITEMS (PUBLIC HEARING) continued Use Permit Modification application to allow expansion of an existing athletic club to the adjacent property with related parking and landscaping at 417 Eccles Avenue. Director Smith informed the Commission that the applicant requested to continue UP-75-314/Mod 1 until the December 11, 1986 Planning Commission meeting. Lyon's Restaurant (La Quinta Motor Inns, owner), UP-75-733/Mod 2, 10 Airport Boulevard continued from the October 9, 1986 Planning Commission meeting. Use Permit Modification for revised site plan for a 24 hour restaurant with on-sale alcohol, including related parking, exterior elevations, landscaping and signs at 10 Airport Boulevard. November 13, 1986 staff report presented. Applicant: Gary Mayes Vice President, Real Estate Lyon's Restaurants 1331 Hamilton Avenue Palo Alto Applicant's Representative: Sherrod Marshall 8425 W. Third Street Los Angeles Mr. Mayes explained to the Commission that Lyon's Restaurants has been working with the Design Review Board and staff for several months and they concur with the staff report's findings and conditions. The Commission discussed the height of the roof parapet and whether it was increased for the purpose of having the sign seen from the freeway. Mr. Marshall explained that the parapet is to hide the exhaust fan equipment. Vice Chair Boblitt asked Mr. Marshall if Lyon's would consider lowering the sign to a wall area under an eave. Mr. Marshall responded that he would have to discuss this suggestion with Lyon's but freeway recognition must be taken into consideration. Motion-Hoyer/Second Getz: To approve UP-85-733/Mod 2 subject to the conditions and findings contained in the staff report. Motion failed by the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioner Hoyer. NOES: Chair Wendler, Vice-Chair Boblitt, Commissioners Getz and Terry. ABSTAINED: Commissioners Agee and Martin. PC MTG. 11/13/86 Page 2 of 7 Pages AGENDA ITEMS (PUBLIC HEARING) continued Director Smith suggested that the Commission separate the sign issue from approval of the use. The Commission agreed that the use was acceptable for this site but that the height of the roof sign needed to be modified. The Commission asked the applicant if Lyon's was agreeable to a continuance to the December 11, 1986 meeting in order to revise the sign location. Mr. Mayes preferred that the case be continued. Motion-Getz/Second Boblitt: To reopen UP-85-733/Mod 2, rescinding the previous motion and to continue UP-85-733/Mod 2 to the December 11, 1986 Planning Commission meeting. Approved by the following roll call vote: AYES: Chair Wendler, Vice-Chair Boblitt, Commissioners Agee, Getz, Hoyer and Martin. NOES: Commissioner Terry. Nello and Maria pretari, UP-86-782, 340 California Avenue Use Permit application to construct a second single family residence with related parking and landscaping on property with an existing single family residence at 340 California Avenue. November 13, 1986 staff report presented. Applicant's representative: Jim Smith 434 Forestview Dr. Mr. Smith informed the Commission that the applicants have agreed to the conditions set forth in the staff report. Motion-Hoyer/Second Agee: To approve UP-86-782 subject to the conditions and findings as contained in the staff report. Unanimously approved by roll call vote. Edward and Carol Simas (Shell Station), UP-86-780, Negative Declaration No. 568, 110 Hickey Boulevard Use Permit application to demolish an existing gasoline station and construct a new self-service gasoline station with a limited sales area and related parking, landscaping, and signs at 110 Hickey Boulevard. November 13, 1986 staff report presented. Applicant's representative: Bruce Shewchuk C/REM 310 N. Bayshore Bl. San Mateo Applicant: Ted Simas 2200 Durant Street Berkeley PC MTG. 11/13/86 Page 3 of 7 Pages AGENDA ITEMS (PUBLIC HEARING) continued Mr. Shewchuk informed the Commission that the applicant is agreeable to the conditions and findings contained in the staff report. The Commission discussed the design and circulation of the proposed service station. Several Commissioners felt a design that would blend in with the residential aspects of the surrounding environment would be more acceptable; Commissioner Getz voiced the opinion that this design is more suitable to a freeway orientation. Vice-Chair Boblitt mentioned that a food mart was unnecessary since there was a small shopping center across the street. Commissioner Hoyer and Martin approved of the efficiency of the proposed station and remarked that its design was similar to other service stations being built in the community. Commissioner Agee suggested that larger tree specimens would help soften the look of the metal canopy. (Cassette No.2) Vice Chair Boblitt asked the applicant if a redesign was possible. Mr. Simas explained that the plans were drawn by Shell and that the design is their national image. Motion-Martin/Second Agee: To approve UP-86-780 and Negative Declaration No. 568 subject to the conditions and findings contained in the staff report. Motion failed by the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Agee, Hoyer and Martin. NOES: Chair Wendler, Vice-Chair Boblitt, Commissioners Getz and Terry. Samuelson, Hornaday & Schafer (Copley Real Estate Advisors, owner) UP-86-781, Negative Declaration No. 569, 383-393 East Grand Avenue Use Permit application to allow construction of a multi-tenant office/industrial project with related parking, landscaping, and sign program at 383-393 East Grand Avenue. November 13, 1986 staff report presented. Applicant: Jim Schafer 100 California Street San Francisco Richard Malay 100 Pringle Avenue Walnut Creek Mr. Schafer agreed with the staff report and to the conditions contained therein. PC MTG. 11/13/86 Page 4 of 7 Pages AGENDA ITEMS (PUBLIC HEARING) continued Commissioner Getz asked Mr. Malay, soils consultant for the applicant, questions regarding the condition of the filled slope on which the proposed building is to be built. Mr. Malay informed the commission that there is uncertainty as to the stability of the slope, but proper engineering practices will be implemented for the drainage of surface and underground water which will provide a stable situation. Motion-Martin/Second Agee: To approve UP-86-781 and Negative Declaration No. 569 subject to the conditions and findings contained in the staff report. Unanimously approved by roll call vote. City of South San Francisco, ZA-86-34 Public Hearing for sign provisions of the proposed Zoning Ordinance (Chapters 20.42-20.47, 20.76, 20.86, of the South San Francisco Municipal Code and the Sign District Map). continued from the October 23, 1986 Planning Commission meeting. Speaking with concern: Stevan Luzaich, attorney representing Brentwood Shopping Center 700 El Camino Real Millbrae Louis Dell'Angela 400 Oyster Point Blvd. Tony Khorozian El Camino Real and Hazelwood Drive Tony Barbaria El Camino Real and Orange Avenue Mr. Luzaich cited the many problems involved with amortizing and suggested that grandfathering was an easier solution. He also spoke regarding an El Camino Real corridor and how the merchants at the Brentwood Shopping Center depend on the readerboard for business identification. Mr. Dell'Angela stated the problems regarding sign zones as opposed to sign districts and endorsed the Commission's suggestion for an El Camino Real corridor approach. He also asked the Commission to consider staff approval of signs 100 square feet or less in order to simplify the process, and to reconsider "signage permitted" with regard to lot frontage or lot area rather than building frontage. PC MTG. 11/13/86 Page 5 of 7 Pages AGENDA ITEMS (PUBLIC HEARING) continued Mr. Khorozian stated that business at the Brentwood Shopping Center has been declining in the past few years and there has been a high rate of tenant turnover. He felt the shopping center did not have enough signage to attract the traffic off of El Camino Real. Mr. Barbaria, service station owner, informed the Commission that signage was important for his business and it was necessary to be visually recognizable from four blocks away in order to attract customers. It was the consensus of the Commission to close the public hearing and to discuss the testimony taken and the November 13, 1986 staff report. The public hearing was closed. Commissioners Martin and Hoyer discussed the possibility of including visual maintenance of signs as part of the amortization process, including the maintenance of the electrical functions of illuminated signs. The Commission discussed zone districts vs. sign districts and agreed that a concept should be approved which reduces the number of districts and incorporates the simplest methods possible. The Commission agreed to eliminate required setbacks for freestanding signs in all districts. The Commission agreed that any freestanding sign exceeding 10 feet in height or over 100 square feet in size could require a Type C permit. A sign under 10' in height would be approved by staff level or with Design Review Board agreement. The Commission discussed various methods of amortization and several Commissioners agreed it should be scheduled to take effect in 10 years. Commissioner Terry asked staff to define roof line with regard to the placement of a sign. With regard to Classic Signs, Commissioner Getz commented that a survey might be conducted which would indicate which signs qualified and then the owners should be notified that they could apply for such designation. It was agreed that further discussion of readerboards was necessary and to leave this issue open until the December 11, 1986 Planning Commission meeting. PC MTG. 11/13/86 Page 6 of 7 Pages ITEMS FROM STAFF Director Smith informed the Commission that at the November 12, 1986 City Council meeting the Zoning Ordinance was approved and would take effect on December 12, 1986. ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION Commissioner Agee announced that the San Mateo County Planning Commission continued the hearing on the Cueva nursing home (365 Dorado Way) until November 26, 1986. Commissioner Terry requested staff to verify the signage approved for the addition built at the Ron Price Volkswagen location. Commissioner Terry informed staff that four service stations are presently not pumping gasoline and should be advised of their use permit requirements: gas stations at Hillside and Linden, South Canal and South Spruce Avenues, 264 South Airport Boulevard and 45 Chestnut Avenue. ADJOURNMENT Chair Wendler adjourned the meeting at 12:30 a.m. to December 11, 1986, 7:30 p.m. ,,-, /'1.. . (;-----1. 1 '\' I ~i ! j r Y /~~.r--.. / .p:h..-------- ~tean T. Smith, Secretary v/Planning Commission City of South San Francisco .~~ y Ann Wendler, Chair lanning Commission City of South San Francisco JTS: JAW: sp PC MTG. 11/13/86 Page 7 of 7 Pages November 5, 1986 study Session of the South San Francisco Planning Commission. MEMBERS PRESENT: Acting Chairman Getz, Commissioners Agee, Hoyer, Martin and Terry. ABSENT: Chair Wendler and Vice-Chair Boblitt ALSO PRESENT: Planning Director Jean Smith Acting Chairman Getz called the study session to order at 7:25 p.m. The Commissioners highlighted their concerns following the public testimony taken at the October 23 Planning Commission meeting regarding the sign ordinance. The Commission discussed "grandfathering" as opposed to amortization and reached a compromise on a somewhat longer amortization period, without any "grandfathering". They also wanted to include emphasis on maintenance. A uniform amortization period was favored, with a bonus for good maintenance; periods suggested were: 5 (basic) plus 5 (bonus), 7 plus 3, and 10 plus 5. If a sign was not maintained, however, it should be abated. The Commissioners agreed that the amortization should apply City-wide. Director Smith mentioned that under the proposed ordinance "change of copy" will no longer occur; new businesses will require a new sign permit, another step in bringing non- conforming signs into compliance. The Commission discussed consolidation of the five sign districts into four, as follows: Sign District One - neighborhood shopping and mixed commercial zones. Sign District Two - downtown. Sign District Three - El Camino Real and South Airport Boulevard corridor. Sign District Four - industrial. Acting Chairman Getz stressed that "classic" signs (i.e. Bertolucci's, Brentwood, or Cavalier Motel) would be exempt from amortization under the proposed "Classic Sign" concept. The Commission agreed that zero setbacks and height requirements (20 feet) for freestanding signs should be standardized City- wide. The Commission discussed existing readerboards on El Camino Real. Page 1 of 2 Pages 11/5/86 Study Session It was suggested a prOV1Slon be included in the ordinance that would give "density" credit to multi-tenant shopping areas. Acting Chairman Getz asked staff to provide the size of the Brentwood Shopping Center readerboard sign at the November 13, 1986 Planning Commission meeting. The Commission agreed that definitions should be added to the ordinance with reference to "building oriented uses" and "land oriented uses" in measuring allowable sign area, to accommodate commercial parking and similar uses. The Commission continued discussion of appealing a sign application to City Council until the November 13 Planning Commission meeting when the Commission would be in full attendance. Commissioner Hoyer suggested a definition of "sign program" be incorporated into the sign ordinance. ADJOURNMENT Acting Chairman Getz adjourned the meeting at 9:30 p.m. to October 23, 1986, 7:30 p.m. .~~ Jean T. Smith, Secretary Planning Commission City of South San Francisco Carles W. Getz IV Acting Chairman Planning Commission City of South San Francisco JTS:CWG:sp Page 2 of 2 Pages 11/5/86 Study Session